Suspect Arrested in JonBenet Ramsey case

[coemgen]

Good to hear. Good luck with stuff. So you're writing, eh? Great!

I shouldn't have said "bored." "Burned out" is more like it. Two to three stories a day gets old after six years.

I hope to do more freelance after I move on, which could be relatively soon.

 

[Dreadsox]

I have a feeling, this guy is confessing for publicity. It's a sinking feeling the more I hear because I hoped it was solved, but now I am not so sure.

 

[corianderstem]

I read that the police have been investigating him for a while, so I'd like to keep thinking there's at least something there.

I mean, they wouldn't investigate him without something to go on, right?

 

[coemgen]

You'd think that, but why would his ex-wife say he was with her during the murder? Also, I heard that he claimed he drugged JonBenet, but nothing was found in her system. (I heard this second hand, not sure if it's fact yet.) Also, it seems funny what he's saying, and what he's not saying.

We've been discussing it in the newsroom here that he was probably in trouble with kiddy porn or something like that and he's taking the heat on this in a deal. He's admitted to "accidentally" killing her, but not saying how he knew the family. I know there's a trial coming up, but ? If it is found to be an "accident," I'm sure prison time in the U.S. is far better than in Thailand.

 

[ladywithspinninghead]

Is it just me or does having the murder suspect sitting at a press conference and answering questions from the press and making public statements seem incredibly bizarre?

Umm, this guy hasn't been proven guilty either and a confession doesn't mean he did either. He is a child molester and unless is story is verifiable with the facts of the case, he might be just another wacko looking for attention.

Interesting you say that because criminal profilers on the news (CBC) are openly saying that it's highly unlikely this guy is the murderer.
His ex-wife said that he wasn't even in Boulder that Xmas, apparently he was with her in Alabama...Hmm...

 

[Liesje]

He's admitted to "accidentally" killing her, but not saying how he knew the family. I know there's a trial coming up, but ? If it is found to be an "accident," I'm sure prison time in the U.S. is far better than in Thailand.

I'm not sure if this is true for all states, but according to the Michigan statutes, if you "accidentally" kill someone while committing another felony (rape, kidnapping....), it's first degree regardless of intent, so I'm not sure how much difference the "accident" is going to make. If there's enough evidence to convict him, it seems like they wouldn't let him deal down. I doubt the public would appreciate that and we all know how political the DAs offices are.

I don't mean to be speaking as if he's the man (or woman), there has been so little detail given so far I'm not convinced either way.

If they are really confident in this suspect, I wish them good luck finding an unbiased jury!

I'm watching a special on this right now, but so far nothing new...

 

[trevster2k]

Ok, it was sad that a little girl was murdered 10 years ago but really, in the big scheme of things, who gives a shit? Thousands of kids died today all over the world from simple preventable diseases, hunger, and violence and our media and news programs consider this the top newstory.

Sometimes I am embarrassed to be a human being.

 

[BluRmGrl]

Wow.... that statment just reeks of compassion.

I completely appreciate and share your disgust for the thousands of kids that die daily from preventable causes, but that doesn't make the sexual violation and murder of a privileged child (or poor one) any less disgusting.

 

[Angela Harlem]

I couldn't disagree with that more. I think I see your point, however it is a little girl who was murdered. It is absolutely essential whoever did it is found and tried and sentenced accordingly. No one should ever be free to walk away from a crime like that, it doesn't matter how the parents dressed her up or how the media whore themselves over it like flies on shit. This little girl deserves her murderer brought to justice, just like anyones'.

 

[Angela Harlem]

Sorry, that was to Trevster, not you, BRG!

 

[BluRmGrl]

Sorry, that was to Trevster, not you, BRG!

I realize that, AH We're both guilty of not explicitly stating that our comments were in reply to Trevster's post.

 

[anitram]

The problem is that the media is salivating over this. It's been a lead story on CNN for 48 hours, non-stop. They're like pigs in shit over it.

She deserves justice, but this is completely disproportionate coverage. Completely.

 

[trevster2k]

Thank you anitram!! My point is exactly that!

This is not the most important event on the planet! The coverage for this is appalling!

At the end of the day, it is very possible that this guy didn't even do it anyway. This is not a front page event. What about all the other murdered little kids whose murderers are found. The only reason Jon Benet Ramsey's murder got the coverage it did is because of the little beauty queen angle and the inability of the police to find the murderer.

 

[maycocksean]

i dunno, i always thought the parents should be murdered for what they did to that child

I always thought the parents were judged guilty largely because of what they did to that child. Which I don't think is fair.

 

[coemgen]

The problem is that the media is salivating over this. It's been a lead story on CNN for 48 hours, non-stop. They're like pigs in shit over it.

She deserves justice, but this is completely disproportionate coverage. Completely.

I fully agree with you on this. Yes, it's an interesting story, but I read on CNN.com yesterday about a plane having to be redirected because explosive chemicals were found on board. We had the TV on in the newsroom (just above my head) and I never saw them talk about this. Liquid explosive chemicals during times like this couldn't even break through the Ramsey case. They had to keep replaying his confession footage.

 

[redkat]

I have a feeling, this guy is confessing for publicity. It's a sinking feeling the more I hear because I hoped it was solved, but now I am not so sure.

That's the feeling I got watching it last night. He just seems like a very sick man he probably needs to be locked up. so far it doesn't look like they have any good reason to think he is responsible other than his obsession with the case and confession.

 

[coemgen]

And another thing — does anybody else think this Karr guy looks a lot like Ed Grimley? He had his pants pulled up to his ribs for crying out loud.

 

[redkat]

And another thing — does anybody else think this Karr guy looks a lot like Ed Grimley? He had his pants pulled up to his ribs for crying out loud.

 

[JCR]

And another thing — does anybody else think this Karr guy looks a lot like Ed Grimley? He had his pants pulled up to his ribs for crying out loud.

That's all my mate and I discussed last night--not whether he did it or not, but how ridiculously high his pants were pulle up! I can't stop laughing!!!!
His face however, is disturbingly similar to Lee Harvey Oswald, ya think?
Personally, the more we learn and see, the more it appears, right now at least, the man's seriously mentally disturbed. (let's see, can we use the word disturb one more time...yep, guess so) Get workin' on that deadline coemgen!

And this guy looks like dennis miller

 

[Dreadsox]

And another thing — does anybody else think this Karr guy looks a lot like Ed Grimley? He had his pants pulled up to his ribs for crying out loud.

MY wife and I shouted Ed Grimley's name the second we saw him.

 

[80sU2isBest]

The guy said he picked her up at school, but actually, school was on holiday that day. The guy also said he drugged here; the autopsy found no drugs in her system.

 

[coemgen]

Exactly. He's a fraud.

 

[diamond]

looks like he is a whacko with a perverse interest in this case; possibly a pedophile in other cases.

dbs

 

[MrsSpringsteen]

After 10 years this all seemed too good to be true, that they could find her murderer. No matter what any media source says about what he has said or knows, he could still just be a loon seeking attention. What does he have to lose in his life by doing this? Supposedly he's not even allowed to see his kids. And people who knew him thought he was dead.

CNN claims they have a law enforcement source who says this..

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/18/karr.questions/index.html

BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- John Mark Karr gave authorities graphic details about the condition of JonBenet Ramsey's body that have been kept secret for nearly a decade, a U.S. law enforcement source told CNN on Friday.

Those details were known only to the medical examiner and the investigators investigating the December 26, 1996 slaying of the 6-year-old beauty pageant competitor, the law enforcement official said.

"The Rocky Mountain News published on its Web site Friday excerpts of what investigators say they believe are e-mails between Karr and professor Michael Tracey, including one that read: "JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4926302,00.html

There was an interesting article on msnbc about this guy-doesn't make him a murderer of course

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14400501/

 

[phillyfan26]

After 10 years this all seemed too good to be true, that they could find her murderer. No matter what any media source says about what he has said or knows, he could still just be a loon seeking attention. What does he have to lose in his life by doing this? Supposedly he's not even allowed to see his kids. And people who knew him thought he was dead.

CNN claims they have a law enforcement source who says this..

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/18/karr.questions/index.html

BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- John Mark Karr gave authorities graphic details about the condition of JonBenet Ramsey's body that have been kept secret for nearly a decade, a U.S. law enforcement source told CNN on Friday.

Those details were known only to the medical examiner and the investigators investigating the December 26, 1996 slaying of the 6-year-old beauty pageant competitor, the law enforcement official said.

"The Rocky Mountain News published on its Web site Friday excerpts of what investigators say they believe are e-mails between Karr and professor Michael Tracey, including one that read: "JonBenet, my love, my life. I love you and shall forever love you. I pray that you can hear my voice calling out to you from my darkness."

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_4926302,00.html

There was an interesting article on msnbc about this guy-doesn't make him a murderer of course

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14400501/

Didn't something like that with "insider info" happen around here? Sounds familiar...

Aside from that, if that's true, it's pretty convincing. I actually think, considering they've had a lead for months, that this is the guy.

 

[LarryMullen's POPAngel]

Yeah, this doesn't need to be front page news, but it was such a sensationalized story we knew as soon as anything new and major "broke" it would be all over the damn place for days, and that's exactly what's happened.

I am beginning to think this guy's not the killer, just some sick loser who doesn't want to go to prison in Bangkok for his crimes.

 

[80sU2isBest]

As someone who does not abhor violence in all cases, I can honestly say that if I were in the room with whomever did it, I would probably fly into a rage and start beating the living crap out of him and would probably have to be pulled off. I am not saying that is the right thing or Christian thing to do, but it is an honest assessment of what would probably happen.

 

[BrownEyedBoy]

^ Could anyone blame you? I wouldn´t...

 

[JCOSTER]

And another thing — does anybody else think this Karr guy looks a lot like Ed Grimley? He had his pants pulled up to his ribs for crying out loud.

Everytime I see this guy on tv he really gives me the creeps even if he didn't commit the murder. He's eerie. And anyone who wears there pants like that gives me even more creeps.

 

[AvsGirl41]

BOULDER, Colorado (CNN) -- John Mark Karr gave authorities graphic details about the condition of JonBenet Ramsey's body that have been kept secret for nearly a decade, a U.S. law enforcement source told CNN on Friday.

Those details were known only to the medical examiner and the investigators investigating the December 26, 1996 slaying of the 6-year-old beauty pageant competitor, the law enforcement official said]

I think he is a fraud or delusional. They will have to have DNA evidence on him if they hope to even bring him to trial and it doesn't sound like they do. The evidence was so bungled that even if it WAS him, they probably couldn't convict.

I think I have said it on here before, but my dad is a Denver cop. He knows the guy who wrote the "Perfect Town, Perfect Murder" book, as well as alot of the detectives they called in. He's perplexed at what "secret" information there is because he heard all there is to know about the case. And none of it ever fit an intruder theory.

The way Boulder handled the whole case was so appalling. All the evidence was mishandled or contaminated. They never managed to interview anyone correctly. It's sad that no one will ever be brought to justice for the crime. If it had been Denver, the killer would be locked up to rot by now.