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Old 01-16-2006, 07:04 PM   #1
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"Surely God is mad at America" .... Nope not Pat Robertson.....

Mayor Ray Nagin suggested Monday that Hurricanes Katrina and Rita and other storms were a sign that "God is mad at America" and at black communities, too, for tearing themselves apart with violence and political infighting.

"Surely God is mad at America. He sent us hurricane after hurricane after hurricane, and it's destroyed and put stress on this country," Nagin, who is black, said as he and other city leaders marked Martin Luther King Day.



"Surely he doesn't approve of us being in Iraq under false pretenses. But surely he is upset at black America also. We're not taking care of ourselves."

Nagin also promised that New Orleans will be a "chocolate" city again. Many of the city's black neighborhoods were heavily damaged by Katrina.

"It's time for us to come together. It's time for us to rebuild New Orleans _ the one that should be a chocolate New Orleans," the mayor said. "This city will be a majority African American city. It's the way God wants it to be. You can't have New Orleans no other way. It wouldn't be New Orleans."

Nagin described an imaginary conversation with King, the late civil rights leader.

"I said, `What is it going to take for us to move on and live your dream and make it a reality?' He said, `I don't think that we need to pay attention any more as much about other folks and racists on the other side.' He said, `The thing we need to focus on as a community _ black folks I'm talking about _ is ourselves.'"

Nagin said he also asked: "Why is black-on-black crime such an issue? Why do our young men hate each other so much that they look their brother in the face and they will take a gun and kill him in cold blood?"

The reply, Nagin said, was: "We as a people need to fix ourselves first."

Nagin also said King would have been dismayed with black leaders who are "most of the time tearing each other down publicly for the delight of many."

A day earlier, gunfire erupted at a parade to commemorate King's birthday. Three people were wounded in the daylight shooting amid a throng of mostly black spectators, but police said there were no immediate suspects or witnesses

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Between Pat Robertson and the incompetant Mayor....

God is mad at us an awful lot...

Gee mayor....I wonder if God is mad at you?
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God's Mad at Everyone! Droughts, Blizzrds, Tsunamis, Earthquakes, Tornados, Hurricanes, Floods, LandSlides.

In fact God's taken out more people than Bush. But if he created us and he dosen't like what were doing, who are we to argue.
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he is mad

he heard someone wanted to sock em
in da haid
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The theology of his message may be flawed, but at least he is trying to get the attention of his audience to move beyond self-destructive behavior.
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Seriously,
the old testament is full
of examples of these beliefs


was the earth
some 2000-4000 years ago
a magical place where G-d affected
peoples daily lives with natural disasters, etc.
and even punished some for 400 years, etc

and now he has dropped us
like a child that has grown bored with a once favorite toy?
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God would be mad if a Category 5 hurricane hit North Dakota. Beyond that, every disaster has been scientifically logical. Maybe next time you'll think twice about building a city below sea level smack in the middle of a hurricane zone.

God isn't angry. People are just stupid.

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I had the flu last week, I wonder what I did to piss God off?
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I have had a long run of good fortune

Surely,
I am blessed and chosen.
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Who know's but I have the flu right now. Damn you BonoVox!

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God is angry for the right reasons, this will get a pass.
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The theology of his message may be flawed, but at least he is trying to get the attention of his audience to move beyond self-destructive behavior.
Couldn't the same be said of Mr. Robertson?
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God would be mad if a Category 5 hurricane hit North Dakota. Beyond that, every disaster has been scientifically logical. Maybe next time you'll think twice about building a city below sea level smack in the middle of a hurricane zone.

God isn't angry. People are just stupid.
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Couldn't the same be said of Mr. Robertson?
Withdrawing from the Gaza was self-destructive behavior? Also, isn't there a bit of a difference between a black leader urging his own community to put its house in better order, and an American evangelical preacher insinuating from a distance that the Israeli PM deserved to suffer a stroke because God disliked his political agenda? I mean, if Nagin were saying Dick Cheney deserved to have a heart condition because of FEMA's failings or something, I could see your point, but I'm not sure it holds here. Ditto for some of Robertson's previous doozies, unless you're taking the relativistic stance that (mis)using "God's will" as a rhetorical weapon against black-on-black violence is no different from invoking it against gays, or school boards opposed to creationism. I believe nb's approach is the more generous and correct one: OK, so it's theologically inappropriate--not to mention poorly put--but give him points, at least, for attempting to further a cause which (I hope) we can all agree is an unproblematically worthy one.

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Withdrawing from the Gaza was self-destructive behavior?


Robertson thought so:

[q]"He was dividing God's land, and I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the [European Union], the United Nations or the United States of America,'" Robertson told viewers of his long-running television show, "The 700 Club."

"God says, 'This land belongs to me, and you'd better leave it alone,'" he said.

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