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Old 02-02-2007, 05:54 PM   #1
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Superiority complexes and internet forums in general

This is a long one I'm afraid, and what's worse, I am on my soapbox.

Disclaimer / arsesaver: This is not aimed at any specific person, and I'm not just talking about here, but in most internet forums I've seen. I just want to find out what anti-newbie nonsense is about, because I cannot comprehend it.

I write in defence of newbies. The articulate, smart ones who get shouted down just because they are new, as I once was. I felt bullied, despite the minor detail that I was talking more sense than some of the longer-term members at the time. Having been here for over 2 years now, hopefully I can say this and actually be listened to by at least 1 person.

I often see comments from people who've been forum members for ages, being derogatory towards the newer members, thinking that their opinion takes precedence over newer members' opinions. I know it's a big joke amongst some, but it isn't amusing for the poor sod who is trying to get their point across.

What makes a person think that the newer people are not worthy? It's like a 30 year old telling a 28 year old, "Oh, sorry mate, seeing as you were born 2 years after me, your comments are irrelevant." Some such comments are sheer rudeness. Others are because people suspect the 'joiner' has joined just to troll or post unpopular opinions/propaganda for the sake of it. I think it's largely because a lot of the people who post duplicate threads - the 'spammers', 'trolls' etc are often newbies. This can be for different reasons - either FMs have just signed up to irritate others, or perhaps they just haven't got to grips with the SPEED of the forum and that there may be similar threads which have jumped off the first page for a few minutes. We just need to teach them about the 'search' function, not whack 'em round the head. Obviously that doesn't account for all of the intake.

What does it matter if you've been here 6 months or several years? If you'd joined here yesterday, what significant influence would that have over your ability to express yourself? I didn't realise a message board had such a fascinating social hierarchy... personally, if I want to know if someone's a troublemaker, I take a quick look at some of their previous posts and I think it gives a much better idea of what they're like than drawing conclusions from a joining date.

I think post numbers and joining dates often get in the way of meaningful discourse. I dont think it matters when you join, just what you have to contribute to that forum. Isn't that what really matters?

Thankyou very much and goodnight.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:11 PM   #2
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I agree with everything you've said. It just seems like common sense and plain decent courtesy if you ask me. Now if only people in real life would bear all of what you've said in mind too!
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:13 PM   #3
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Thank you very much. It is something I meant to say a long, long time ago, but real life got in the way. I was expecting to be chased out with a big stick, like a newbie.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:14 PM   #4
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I remember my first long post on Interference when I was flamed and how quickly you came to my defense. I was immensely grateful.
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I guess some people just want to recreate high school on a daily basis.

I don't care how long anyone has been at a forum, I care what they have to say and how they act. And those two things certainly have nothing to do with how many posts someone has.
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Old 02-02-2007, 06:17 PM   #6
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I agree with you too. I think sometimes people forget that there is a face behind the text, and that that person has feelings. Some people can really be jerks about it too. I thought bullying ended after high school, but clearly that isn't the case. The internet is a neat new way to communicate with people all over the place and to exchange ideas. There's so much more to talk about, why waste the opportunity on bullying?
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From me, any newbie will get insults


And if it is latin, will be even more welcome!
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Caroni, you may have been here the longest, but you've got the least posts out of all of us in this thread... QUICK EVERYONE! Let's jump on her head and call her that horrible cursed name... 'honorary newbie'!

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I don't get the picking on people in general for absolutely no reason. Especially from those people who enjoy getting a sly dig in every now and then or have to comment on something that has nothing to do with them but just have to make themselves heard (generally nobody is interested anyway).

It's even more sad when you have adults who don't seem to have anything more interesting to do in their lives than skulk around forums looking for someone to pick on or a chance to get a remark in.
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^Call it lack of internet in my house

I´m a honorary newbie and I´m proud of it!
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^Call it lack of internet in my house

I´m a honorary newbie and I´m proud of it!
Me has parecido muy maja.

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All I remember of my Español is 'limpiar la casa'... or something similar!
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Me has parecido muy maja.

Español

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All I remember of my Español is 'limpiar la casa'... or something similar!

Bad words for telling to a latin
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All I remember of my Español is 'limpiar la casa'... or something similar!
Spreek jij geen Nederlands?

Da's héél goed!
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Ja zeker, ik heb de(?) Nederlandse taal gestudeerd.

Excuse my Dutch! I've barely used it since graduating in 2003.
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