Irvine511
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Dreadsox said:
the kind of dirty talk that *really* turns me on involves breathy whispers of the numbers 1, 4, 4, and 1.
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the kind of dirty talk that *really* turns me on involves breathy whispers of the numbers 1, 4, 4, and 1.
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Yahweh_OMG
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sulawesigirl4 said:A few years ago I spent a year in Switzerland living in a tiny town up the hill from Montreux (near Villars, if you know where that is). Used to go to Geneve all the time. How's the Jet d'Eau these days?
héhé.... yes I know Villars.... actually I live in Nyon, by the Lake Léman.... I see the Jet d'Eau from my windows.... it's still great
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verte76 said:
Sure, you and Irvine are very welcomed....
I've never met any Interferencers.....
Irvine511
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[q]Street Battles in Iraqi Cities Point to Dire Security Status
By KIRK SEMPLE
BAGHDAD, May 16 — Sprawling street battles between militia gunmen and Iraqi security forces erupted in three cities on Wednesday on a day of wide-ranging violence that underscored the grave security situation across much of Iraq.
In the northern city of Mosul, more than 200 Sunni Arab insurgents carried out a sophisticated attack on several targets using suicide car bombers, rocket-propelled grenades, assault rifles and improvised bombs, said Maj. Gen. Watheq al-Hamdani, the top police commander in Mosul.
Four police officers died in the fighting, while 14 others were wounded along with 16 civilians, General Hamdani said.
The attack began at dusk when gunmen tried to storm the main provincial jail, the commander said. When police forces responded, the insurgents attacked them with six suicide car bombs, and 14 bombs planted on surrounding roads exploded.
As the police and insurgents fought near the prison, gunmen also attacked the houses of General Hamdani and Khasro Goran, deputy governor of Mosul Province and one of the senior members of a leading Kurdish political party, the police commander said. Neither man was wounded.
Gunmen also fired on a woman and her child in an eastern neighborhood, killing the woman and severely wounding the child, though it is unclear whether the shooting was related to the siege, said Gen. Said Ahmad al-Jibouri, a spokesman for the Mosul police.
Insurgents used two car bombs to destroy a bridge in Badush, about 15 miles west of the city, and five prisoners facing terrorism charges escaped from the jail there, killing two prison guards in the process, according to Brig. Gen. Mohammad al-Waga.
The authorities in Mosul imposed a round-the-clock curfew and blockaded five bridges that span the Tigris, which bisects the city, the general said.
Earlier in the day, in the southern city of Diwaniya, scores of militiamen loyal to the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr fought street battles against Iraqi soldiers as government security forces swept into militia strongholds as part of a government crackdown, local officials said.
At least 11 people — eight civilians, two police officers and one solider — were wounded in the fighting, which raged for seven hours and by some official estimates involved as many as 200 militia members, police and army commanders said. As the clashes worsened, the provincial governor moved his family to safety in Iran, a police commander said.
According to local government officials, the fighting was triggered by the recent arrests of several members of Mr. Sadr’s militia, the Mahdi Army, in Diwaniya, which is about 110 miles south of the capital.
But the fighting tapped into a longtime power struggle between Mr. Sadr’s loyalists and supporters of a rival Shiite party, the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, which controls the government of Diwaniya Province and its police force. That party, formerly called the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, changed its name last week.
Mahdi Army fighters have occasionally battled members of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council’s armed wing, the Badr Organization. But provincial and tribal officials said the fighting on Wednesday was mostly between Mahdi gunmen and members of the Iraqi Army’s Eighth Division, which is not considered to be a pawn of the provincial leadership or the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council.
“The market is closed and people are afraid that things might escalate,” Sheik Hussein al-Shaalan, the head of a tribe in Diwaniya and a secular member of Parliament, said in an interview late Wednesday.
News agencies reported that similar clashes, pitting the Iraqi police against Mahdi militiamen angry about the arrest of two of their members, broke out late Tuesday in Nasiriya, about 120 miles southeast of Diwaniya, and continued into the early morning hours on Wednesday. At least nine Iraqis were killed and 75 wounded in the fighting, The Associated Press reported.
Few other regions across Iraq were untouched by violence on Wednesday.[/q]
but not to worry folks! the violence that's engulfing the nation is all within 90 miles of Baghdad! or at least it used to be! so let's continue to say it is! pay NO attention to the speed at which the society is plunging into total chaos and the utter inability of a totally inept, illegitimate government to stop the fall! we've got not one but TWO governments who are thoroughly incompetent at governance!
By KIRK SEMPLE
BAGHDAD, May 16 — Sprawling street battles between militia gunmen and Iraqi security forces erupted in three cities on Wednesday on a day of wide-ranging violence that underscored the grave security situation across much of Iraq.
In the northern city of Mosul, more than 200 Sunni Arab insurgents carried out a sophisticated attack on several targets using suicide car bombers, rocket-propelled grenades, assault rifles and improvised bombs, said Maj. Gen. Watheq al-Hamdani, the top police commander in Mosul.
Four police officers died in the fighting, while 14 others were wounded along with 16 civilians, General Hamdani said.
The attack began at dusk when gunmen tried to storm the main provincial jail, the commander said. When police forces responded, the insurgents attacked them with six suicide car bombs, and 14 bombs planted on surrounding roads exploded.
As the police and insurgents fought near the prison, gunmen also attacked the houses of General Hamdani and Khasro Goran, deputy governor of Mosul Province and one of the senior members of a leading Kurdish political party, the police commander said. Neither man was wounded.
Gunmen also fired on a woman and her child in an eastern neighborhood, killing the woman and severely wounding the child, though it is unclear whether the shooting was related to the siege, said Gen. Said Ahmad al-Jibouri, a spokesman for the Mosul police.
Insurgents used two car bombs to destroy a bridge in Badush, about 15 miles west of the city, and five prisoners facing terrorism charges escaped from the jail there, killing two prison guards in the process, according to Brig. Gen. Mohammad al-Waga.
The authorities in Mosul imposed a round-the-clock curfew and blockaded five bridges that span the Tigris, which bisects the city, the general said.
Earlier in the day, in the southern city of Diwaniya, scores of militiamen loyal to the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr fought street battles against Iraqi soldiers as government security forces swept into militia strongholds as part of a government crackdown, local officials said.
At least 11 people — eight civilians, two police officers and one solider — were wounded in the fighting, which raged for seven hours and by some official estimates involved as many as 200 militia members, police and army commanders said. As the clashes worsened, the provincial governor moved his family to safety in Iran, a police commander said.
According to local government officials, the fighting was triggered by the recent arrests of several members of Mr. Sadr’s militia, the Mahdi Army, in Diwaniya, which is about 110 miles south of the capital.
But the fighting tapped into a longtime power struggle between Mr. Sadr’s loyalists and supporters of a rival Shiite party, the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, which controls the government of Diwaniya Province and its police force. That party, formerly called the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, changed its name last week.
Mahdi Army fighters have occasionally battled members of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council’s armed wing, the Badr Organization. But provincial and tribal officials said the fighting on Wednesday was mostly between Mahdi gunmen and members of the Iraqi Army’s Eighth Division, which is not considered to be a pawn of the provincial leadership or the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council.
“The market is closed and people are afraid that things might escalate,” Sheik Hussein al-Shaalan, the head of a tribe in Diwaniya and a secular member of Parliament, said in an interview late Wednesday.
News agencies reported that similar clashes, pitting the Iraqi police against Mahdi militiamen angry about the arrest of two of their members, broke out late Tuesday in Nasiriya, about 120 miles southeast of Diwaniya, and continued into the early morning hours on Wednesday. At least nine Iraqis were killed and 75 wounded in the fighting, The Associated Press reported.
Few other regions across Iraq were untouched by violence on Wednesday.[/q]
but not to worry folks! the violence that's engulfing the nation is all within 90 miles of Baghdad! or at least it used to be! so let's continue to say it is! pay NO attention to the speed at which the society is plunging into total chaos and the utter inability of a totally inept, illegitimate government to stop the fall! we've got not one but TWO governments who are thoroughly incompetent at governance!
A_Wanderer
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So now the Iraqi government becomes illegitimate?
Irvine511
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A_Wanderer said:
how is it legitimate?
(this has been said for a while, i thought)
Silly Irvine. We've just sent 4,000 more troops to Iraq this week. Can't you at least give them a chance to succeed?
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A_Wanderer
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It was formed after negotiations by the factions following a verified democratic election. It is not an autocracy.Irvine511 said:
Irvine511
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A_Wanderer said:
it's the beginning of a Shiite theocracy and it is not representative of the Iraqi people.
i think there are more important things to discuss than quibbling over semantics.
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Irvine511 said:
how dare we not recognize the immeasurable contributions of the Marshall Islands!
And Poland. Don't forget Poland.
U2DMfan
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A_Wanderer said:
It only becomes legitimate when this populace fears it.
It will always wear the face of American-appointment.
It's time we started blaming religion for all of our ills.
well, at least pointing out why it's true all over again.
A_Wanderer
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You will get no argument from me about the clerical fascists that are pulling the strings in the shiite block of the nihilistic insurgency groups; but don't you remember that Bush understands Islam is a religion of peace (as he has said incessantly) and doesn't seem to have a problem with Sharia being endorsed by either the Afghan or Iraqi constitutions (God's gift to humanity indeed).
AnnRKeyintheUSA
War Child
Now the dems have completely caved. I knew it all along. Their 'compromise' is what Bush wanted all along, putting all the pressure on the Iraqi gov't. Well, it's going to fall and already has no power, so we know that's the end of that. 
AnnRKeyintheUSA
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More people dying every day, no end in sight, no one doing a damn thing. Get angry, ppl!
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