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Old 05-15-2007, 09:00 AM   #46
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I find it interesting to see that security is measured by attacks on US soil, not by attacks worldwide.

However, it's hard to measure security, as A_Wanderer mentioned before.
The attacks tried in Cologne for example were carried out by fanatics with no real connection to any terrorist organisation. They rather tried to impress some fundamentalists with their doing, but acted very independently.

With or without the Iraq war such attacks would have been planned, and carried out. I think on that account the war didn't change much.
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I can't believe how blind you are!
How can't you see what's going on there? You said that the deaths don't matter? What kind of life are you for? You think that having a war every 5 years is a good think for a country? Yeah maybe when it makes US Arms company work like they do now....those same companies that are bound to Bush.
I am not US citizen, but I like your country, I spend 4 years in New Orleans LA and I met fabulous people, but politically there is somehow a big problem. USA has always had a "tradition" of war, "western movies" kind of thing.... to fight for freedom. Yeah, freedom is great, that's what everyone wants (almost) but why create hate, war, deaths and shit even more?
And I can bet what you want that in 2-3 years max (if a Republican is the President) USA will invade Iran.... of course, otherwise why and whom are the US building guns and crap like this for????? For themselves.


everyone on this board knows me as a die-hard Bush supporter -- praises to our Dear Leader! -- and a true believer that everything the United States touches turns to gold.
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How insulting comments like these are to the members of the coalition who have committed troops to the liberation of the Iraqi people. Resolution 1441 and the UN Charter authorized ALL Member STATES to enforce the Security Council Resolutions. It was not the US against Iraq. This was a UN operation.

agreed!

how dare we not recognize the immeasurable contributions of the Marshall Islands!

without the dozen or so non-american/british troops -- all of whom are there out of military necessity, performing crucial roles and who are certainly not political tokens bought and paid for by the White House so that someone can point to the "many" nations on the ground in Iraq as part of their talking points -- performing vital roles in maintaining the security of Baghdad, the whole mission might not be nearly the smashing success it has been and will continue to be for the next 50 years.

nation building is hard, people.
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Conservative Irvine turns me on.


are you trying to gay marry me?
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^ Well, you're talking to the purported author of a queer revision of Fiddler on the Roof, after all...
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everyone on this board knows me as a die-hard Bush supporter -- praises to our Dear Leader! -- and a true believer that everything the United States touches turns to gold.


Are you guys all sarcastic???? Maybe I got too much into this topic.... sorry
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By the Way Irvine..... you went to Switzerland and didn't tell me....
We could have had a drink talking about the US politics.....

How was it then????
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A few years ago I spent a year in Switzerland living in a tiny town up the hill from Montreux (near Villars, if you know where that is). Used to go to Geneve all the time. How's the Jet d'Eau these days?
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By the Way Irvine..... you went to Switzerland and didn't tell me....
We could have had a drink talking about the US politics.....

How was it then????


yes, have been totally sarcastic this whole time -- sorry, was in Switzerland over a year ago, and we had a wonderful time. i think Lucerne made my "Top 5 European Towns" and the Alps, as always, were breathtaking. we drove a whole lot, made it from Zurich to Lucerne to Zermatt and then all the way up to Munich driving through Montreaux and all up through the western half of the country.

i love to talk politics, not just US politics, and the next time i am in the country, or if you visit Washington DC, i would be happy to have a drink and some conversation.
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Oh, this thread is so funny. Irvine put on the black Spidey suit and look what happened!!
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yes, have been totally sarcastic this whole time -- sorry, was in Switzerland over a year ago, and we had a wonderful time. i think Lucerne made my "Top 5 European Towns" and the Alps, as always, were breathtaking. we drove a whole lot, made it from Zurich to Lucerne to Zermatt and then all the way up to Munich driving through Montreaux and all up through the western half of the country.

i love to talk politics, not just US politics, and the next time i am in the country, or if you visit Washington DC, i would be happy to have a drink and some conversation.
Am I invited?
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Am I invited?


always.

i've met up with more interferencers than one might think ...
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yes, have been totally sarcastic this whole time --
Damn
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Damn


NOT!

you know how much i love coercive interrogation techniques and wiretapping.
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NOT!

you know how much i love coercive interrogation techniques and wiretapping.
My nipples got hard!
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