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Old 09-08-2005, 06:12 PM   #16
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We don't let them watch the 700 Club either (well, we've never thought of turning it on). I once saw a couple minutes of TBN. It was like a trainwreck - more scary images.


believe it or not, this is an area where i do get a bit what might be called "conservative."

i think it is important to protect children (especially young children, 6 and under) from certain kinds of media, and sometimes all kinds of media. kids today are going to grow up innondated with all kinds of images, so i think it's very important for parents to provide spaces where children are free from outside influences and can self-direct their own self-discovery.

in my opinion, the most harmful things out there are commercials. i can't think of anything more sinister than a company that hires a clown with red hair and a yellow suit encouraging children to beg their parents to let them eat the poison that McDonald's fries up with a big dollop of "fun."

i also don't like how we can get so desensitized to the worst thing in the world, violence, for the sake of shock; and i don't like how the most wonderful thing in the world, consensual (and hopefully loving) sex, can be cheapened into a ratings stunt. again, i defend the right for violent movies to exist; i think there's such a thing as responsible consumption of erotica and pornography; but i don't want my 8 year old exposed to either, and it saddens me, as someone who believes in the artistic integrity of judicious useage of sex and violence in adult entertainment, that such powerful images lose their impact the more we are exposed, causing producers and network executives to dig even deeper, push the envelope more and more and more.

it's like drugs, in a way.

but the other thing is, if we didn't want it, the networks wouldn't give it to us.

we have ourselves to blame.
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But what specifically are the images you object to? I mean is it bad language? Violence? Sexual images? People dressed in a way you dislike?
Are you looking for sample images?
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Are you looking for sample images?


actually, i'm curious too.

what do you see on a Saturday morning? that is designated "kid time" and should be sanitized.
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lol, no, it's just that "objectionable image" could mean a lot of things and i'm curious about what you mean. i watched plenty of tv during the time i spent in the us and i don't recall seeing anything terribly shocking, especially not during saturday morning tv shows. so i'm curious about what images it is that you find so objectionable you want to prevent your children seeing them.

i guess what i'm trying to say is that it may well be that you wouldn't want your child to see, for example, a commercial showing a girl wearing a short skirt (i'm not saying this is the case, just using it as an example) whereas many other parents have no problem with their child seeing that image. in that case, why should you be able to object to that image being shown on tv when it's simply a case of personal preference.

another question -- you complain about the "objectionable images" shown on tv, but what would you like to see done about those images? do you want tv companies to stop showing them? should that happen because tv companies choose to of their own free will, or should they be compelled to by some form of government intervention?
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actually, i'm curious too.

what do you see on a Saturday morning? that is designated "kid time" and should be sanitized.
The majority would be TV show promos with violence or erotic aspects of a relationship. Also, I would add horror to the list - not Scooby Doo horror, but far more frightening stuff for a kid.
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The majority would be TV show promos with violence or erotic aspects of a relationship. Also, I would add horror to the list - not Scooby Doo horror, but far more frightening stuff for a kid.


interesting ... haven't been up early enough on a saturday to catch the cartoons, but maybe i'll flip around a bit and see if it's changed all that much since the early-to-mid-80s when i was a lad.
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kids today are going to grow up innondated with all kinds of images, so i think it's very important for parents to provide spaces where children are free from outside influences and can self-direct their own self-discovery.

in my opinion, the most harmful things out there are commercials. i can't think of anything more sinister than a company that hires a clown with red hair and a yellow suit encouraging children to beg their parents to let them eat the poison that McDonald's fries up with a big dollop of "fun."
At the same time, though, just because some show or commercial promotes something, it doesn't automatically mean that people are going to blindly follow it. Maybe I'm just being really naive here, but I'd like to think that people can think for themselves.

And I also think that so long as parents, from the time their children are born, raise them to be good, caring citizens of society, it shouldn't matter what images the children see, because they'll already know right from wrong, fiction from reality, etc., etc. And besides that, if some person goes out and does something because a person on TV suggested it, then it's their fault for not bothering to think for themselves and take personal responsiblity for their own actions.

Course, all this being said, however, if a parent wants to shield their own child(ren) from images and words they deem inappropriate, that is entirely their right as a parent, entirely their choice. It's their household, they can raise their kids their own way.

I just start having issues when those same people try and tell other people outside of their own families what they can and can't see or hear. That's all. They don't know me, how can they possibly think they know what I can and can't handle seeing or hearing, what's "best" for me?

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and it saddens me, as someone who believes in the artistic integrity of judicious useage of sex and violence in adult entertainment, that such powerful images lose their impact the more we are exposed, causing producers and network executives to dig even deeper, push the envelope more and more and more.
I actually think it's not so much the exposure of these images that cause people to push the envelope further as it is the outcry. After all, the more forbidden or horrid or sinful or evil or whatever that something is made out to be, the more curious people are to see said bad thing for themselves. If there wasn't such a thing as these parents' groups or the FCC or things like that, I wonder if you'd see nearly as much "gratuitious" sex and violence on TV.

And besides that, while, granted, my experiences are likely not those of some other people, I would say that even after viewing violence on TV throughout my lifetime, for instance, there are still violent images that come across in a very powerful way to me. I think an image or a word only has as much impact as the person viewing or hearing it lets it have.

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but the other thing is, if we didn't want it, the networks wouldn't give it to us.
Exactly. to FizzingWhizzbees' posts, too.

Also, I do think children's shows nowadays are scary...but not because I think they're too violent or anything like that.

No, I just think they're scary merely because I swear those shows are being created by people who are under the influence of some serious drugs, LOL . Such bizarre stuff...

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