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Old 06-25-2007, 05:45 PM   #31
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Well I have a reasonably high IQ and I'm the middle child, which would make my older brothers geniuses - which would make this whole study a HOUSE OF LIES!
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I'm the oldest of 2 kids, and, we're both dolts.
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Re: the need to believe

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I knew you were a person of faith

come on over and be saved.



wait a minute ... is this how The Bible works as well!?!?!
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wait a minute ... is this how The Bible works as well!?!?!
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read the Bible

and pray about things
and open your mind to the possibility of it being true

and then (decide) or allow yourself to go with a calm feeling of presence of the spirit

and you can be born again and saved
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so ... if i read something, and already know something, and i'm told that what i'm reading is always true, then it will help me better understand what i already know and, in fact, validate it even if i did not previously know it needed validation?
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I'm the oldest of 2 kids, and, we're both dolts. And we have poor memories.
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so ... if i read something, and already know something, and i'm told that what i'm reading is always true, then it will help me better understand what i already know and, in fact, validate it even if i did not previously know it needed validation?
/\
too confusing

just believe

we all need something to believe in


we are creatures that like community
we want to belong


everyone has more or less
accepted this study

we can buy into horoscopes

every person that the Coalition forces kill in Iraq
is Al Qaeda

believe
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I knew my younger sisters were dumb.
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Since you left out the rest,

Not that I'm up on this "birth order" stuff, but I didn't realize there was such a thing as a distinct "later born" category. So how do you break it down with a family of 5 like I grew up in, or an even larger family where there are 8 or 10? Which category or categories do you stretch? Of course in the case of the IQ thing, the trend (according to the article) is for it to drop with each sibling...
I'm the eighth of nine brothers and sisters, and although I'm not as smart as my two oldest siblings - who are probably genuis IQ level or close to it - I did very well academically (considerably better than a couple of my other older siblings, in fact). Then there's my younger sister, the baby of the family, who was just OK academically but is an artsy, creative type.
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anything about the only kid of the family?
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/\ you would be a first born
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anything about the only kid of the family?
You would definitely be smarter than all your non-existent brothers and sisters.

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This does seem accurate in my family. Three kids and in various standardised tests my brother (the oldest) generally scored higher than my sister, who in turn scored higher than me (the youngest).

However, my sister (the middle child) did best in college and has what most people would consider by far the best job (it's certainly the highest paying). My brother, despite by all accounts being very intelligent, is best described as an underachiever. I guess I can be considered that too since, for now at least, I'm eking out a living as an artist. Or maybe that's what I'm supposed to be doing as the baby of the family....
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My mom has always said that my IQ is the highest in my family. I have a younger sister and younger brother. My sister got the best grades in both high school and college. She's a ridiculously hard worker. My brother did better than both of us on standardized tests. That drove my sister nuts. My brother and sister are math/science people whereas I'm a history/english/humanities person. (Except spelling. I am a terrible speller. It's embarrassing really. I'm going to blame it on my dyslexia.) I'm definitely the "pleaser" in my family. Most days however, I'm an idiot.
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In all seriousness....my little sister is the great student, but I was the one that got the better grades. Her study skills ran circles around mine, but when it comes to raw intelligence, I'm probably smarter than she is. We went to the same elementary school, so the teachers expectations of her were not in line with her abilities, which was hard on her.

She's the one with 2 masters degrees, though, and I could not be prouder.
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Most days I'm an idiot. But I have factors weighing in on my mistakes and choices.
I'm definitely the smartest out of my family. That's not saying that my brothers and sister are dumb, but just not as smart as me. Maybe it has to do with my age and that I'm 11 years older than my brother, and 15 years older than my other brother and 19 yrs older than my sister. But I'd say that I was more street smart than book smart, and I just had natural intelligence, and no amount of school (I believe intelligence is something you want- not just taught in school) can bring you more intelligence than others. Street smarts, book smarts and natural intelligence are three separate things.

Why do I feel like I'm the smartest? I think it's because of my difficult upbringing and I had to mature faster- start doing things on my own, like cooking and cleaning when I was about 9 years old. And I learned a LOT of horrific things early on in my life. Stuff my brothers and sister still don't know about. Lucky them they didn't have to deal with abandonment issues, illness and sudden death of a family member, and a whole bunch of issues that I don't have time to get into right now.
My sister is now ten and doesn't even know how to put a load of laundry in. When I was ten, I didn't see my own mother for days at a time. And I lived with her alone.



Plus I had to argue back with decent facts, I was never allowed temper tantrums. In fact, when a grade went below C level, my stereo or my room phone was taken away. My 13 year old brother just got caught smoking pot the other day, and guess what he gets? A cell phone.

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