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Old 09-13-2006, 05:34 PM   #1
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Students Suspended For Wearing 9/11 And First Amendment T-Shirts

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Ben Lewandowski says he was only trying to be patriotic when he wore a homemade T-shirt featuring an American flag bumper sticker and the words "Remember 9/11" to Lincoln Park High School on Monday.

After all, it was Sept. 11 -- five years after the terrorist attacks.

The 17-year-old Lincoln Park resident put the shirt on Monday morning and headed to school -- where he was quickly sent to the office and suspended for three days for violating the school's dress code.

He was one of at least seven students sent home for wearing shirts featuring patriotic images and messages. It comes less than a week after three siblings were suspended for wearing shirts emblazoned with the First Amendment, despite warnings, and a week after more than 200 students were sent home on the first day of school for violating the district's dress code -- which bans apparel with writing or pictures...

...According to the dress code, students are allowed to wear school-sanctioned clothing, such as T-shirts bearing the school's mascot or clothing that supports school organizations.

This, according to the ACLU of Michigan, may violate the students' rights, particularly because it allows students to wear clothing that encourages school spirit but bans other forms of expression. ACLU officials have said that they plan to look into the constitutionality of the dress code.

Kite said the district had lawyers review the policy before it was enacted. Members of the district's school board have said the dress code is lenient compared with other districts such as Detroit and Pontiac, which have banned jeans and T-shirts completely.
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if the school district has a stated dress code then that's that. you're either complient with the dress code or you aren't, no matter how positive or negative whatever message you have written on your shirt.

to me all this is is a couple of teenagers who didn't like the new dress code, thought they were clever, and had the local press blow it out of proportion.
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if the school district has a stated dress code then that's that. you're either complient with the dress code or you aren't, no matter how positive or negative whatever message you have written on your shirt.

to me all this is is a couple of teenagers who didn't like the new dress code, thought they were clever, and had the local press blow it out of proportion.
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This, according to the ACLU of Michigan, may violate the students' rights, particularly because it allows students to wear clothing that encourages school spirit but bans other forms of expression. ACLU officials have said that they plan to look into the constitutionality of the dress code.
I wonder what all those conservatives who scream ACLU is evil think about this?
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um...a dress code is a dress code. I had the same dress code at my job - plain business casual, no logos unless it was the college's name/logo.
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if the school district has a stated dress code then that's that. you're either complient with the dress code or you aren't, no matter how positive or negative whatever message you have written on your shirt.

to me all this is is a couple of teenagers who didn't like the new dress code, thought they were clever, and had the local press blow it out of proportion.
that's right. do the practical and sensible thing and send them home. suspending students for 3 days over wearing a t-shirt is excessive. then their ringing the aclu and dragging the constitution into it is simply using the opportunity for a nice juicy shitfight. doesn't everyone feel energised when they get all up in arms over sweet bugger all?
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This and other stuff (all over) is why I always vote Libertarian in U.S. elections.



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that's right. do the practical and sensible thing and send them home. suspending students for 3 days over wearing a t-shirt is excessive.
i thought a 3 day suspension for a uniform violation was excessive myself, until i saw this

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It comes less than a week after three siblings were suspended for wearing shirts emblazoned with the First Amendment, despite warnings, and a week after more than 200 students were sent home on the first day of school for violating the district's dress code
because of this incident on the first day of school im sure the school decided to inact the 3 day suspension rule in order to prevent future incidents. but the little shit disturbers thought theyd push the limit by wearing a patriotic shirt on 9/11 to see if the school would really suspend them for that. well the school did as they should have.
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this was from later in the article...

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Kelly Galley agrees. Her three children -- 13-year-old twins Monique and Jaicen Massa and 11-year-old Jaymie Massa -- were suspended last week for protesting the dress code by wearing T-shirts with the First Amendment on them. Jaymie had stayed home from Lincoln Park Middle School on Tuesday, but Monique and Jaicen wore the shirts again -- their third offense -- and were suspended again, this time for five days. One more offense and they'll be expelled.

Galley said it's likely she'll end up homeschooling.
come on, its a stupid dress code, a lenient one in which you can still wear jeans and a tshirt. how much do you want to bet that the mom was behind the whole "protest" in the first place? and now her kids will get expelled, sweet.
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Did I miss something? Was this a governmental issued dress code?
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facts are facts... in the business world you are expected to adhire to a specific dress code. if you don't like that, you'll either get fired or won't get the job in the first place.

the earlier kids learn this the better... and that's only the tip of the ice berg on the uniform issue.
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The news in Detroit has been heavily covering the Detroit teachers strike, which seems to finally be over. After a judge had earlier ordered them back to class though, they didn't return. One of them said, "Just because something is law doesn't mean it's right."

I know Lincoln Park isn't one of the school areas that was affected by the strike...but I just think it's really funny that a student gets in trouble for violating a strict dress code to merely be patriotic on such a sad anniversary, yet those Detroit teachers all got away with not following a court order just because they didn't think it was right.
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Hmm, interesting Bonochick. Good point you have there I think. I do have to wonder why an exception can't be made for 9/11, I suppose it just opens it up for all kinds of possible exceptions.
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that's right. do the practical and sensible thing and send them home. suspending students for 3 days over wearing a t-shirt is excessive. then their ringing the aclu and dragging the constitution into it is simply using the opportunity for a nice juicy shitfight. doesn't everyone feel energised when they get all up in arms over sweet bugger all?
I agree.
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