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Old 02-13-2003, 09:42 AM   #16
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Good thread, good article, and good points Michael and Cujo.

Funny thing is, when I was in the US this past weekend, I met alot of Americans who felt the same way.

Go figure.

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Its nice to see a professional athlete take a stand for once! And as hes saying he doesnt have all the facts and hes still learning, exactly like all of us here! And people in this thread is dizzing his hair(have never seen a picture of him) and saying that he should stick to basketball. One word: PREJUDICE

Or maybe we want athletes like Shaq: "Im tired of hearing about money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok."
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the Eclectroial College chose our President.

The Electorial College did not choose Mr Bad Hair Cut to direct foreign affairs

I will listen to a basketball seminar from Steve though.

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Has Bono publicly stated for the USA not to go into Iraq?

or is it speculation by some fans?

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But Diamond, it doesn't matter whether it's about Iraq or about whether America should hand over billions to Africa. Either way, Bono didn't vote in your presedent, and it wasn't his electorial college, right? According to your logic, he should have no say in either cause! America is an island unto itself, after all!
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But Diamond, it doesn't matter whether it's about Iraq or about whether America should hand over billions to Africa. Either way, Bono didn't vote in your presedent, and it wasn't his electorial college, right? According to your logic, he should have no say in either cause! America is an island unto itself, after all!

Thank you Michael.
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"There are people who say you shouldn't mix music and politics, or sport and politics, or whatever; but I think that's kinda bullshit."

Adam Clayton in Rattle & Hum (just before Bullet The Blue Sky if you want to look it up)

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Exactly... that's why we're always talking music and politics together on this forum.

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Thank you Michael for posting the article. I read somewhere on the net that members of the bands Blur and Massive Atack have stated their position against this insane war as well. I'm looking to hearing about the worldwide manifestations against the war on Iraq programmed for this next weekend.
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If Bono would publicly state for the USA not to go into Iraq would YOU say that he has the wrong haircut or sunglasses to talk about politics?

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If Bono would publicly state for the USA not to go into Iraq would YOU say that he has the wrong haircut or sunglasses to talk about politics?

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I would then have to speak w Bono to straighten him out.

Seriously speaking- that is an issue that Bono and I would disagree on, although my respect and love for him would remain the same.
Maybe privately he doesnt want the USA in Iraq.
However publicly he has supported the War On Terror.

Steve Nash needs to do 2 things to get my respect-
1-get a haircut
2-Know the issues top to bottom before commenting

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sometimes i get so mad, i would like to all of us protestors marching to the white house, kicking out bush and starting over a whole a new constitution.

a clean slate for everyone. imagine if everyone would mobilize. all the arabs that are being persecuted by dr. evil himself. all of us in north america who know right from wrong. if we could only mobilize and remove him from power, how great would that be?

bush, take your lust for starting world war three and shove it up your ass.
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However publicly he has supported the War On Terror.
Im not doubting this, but for some this would extrapolate into him supporting a war on Iraq.

Here's what I remember Bono saying

- in Jersey he spoke out against OBL..saying people like him and his 'ideals' had had their day

- in Miami he said something very similar

- during an interview he said that definately the US should go into Afghanistan and get OBL and his crew out

But this has been over a year and a half..

Since then??

Anyone have any quotes or anything?
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Diamond:

don't mix this - lot of people support the "War on Terror" but not the Iraq war - that's one of the reasons why G.W.B. has to pay for every suporter (just G.B support him for free) in the UN .

By the way.. is my Haricut good enough to make political statements?

I don't agree with all points he makes but..

" Nash said. "I don't mind what people believe in. I'm not telling people to believe in what I believe in. I just want people to educate themselves."

That's an excelent point! Just because of that it would be worth to think more about his speech and less about his look.

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Re: Steve Nash Speaks Out Against Iraq War (Great Article)

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to sound like I'm on a soap box or sound like I know it all, because "I'm still trying to educate myself," Nash said. "But it's something I believe in and ....
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Steve should follow his own advice.
You may believe in something but still be wrong.
Sounds like he's drunk on the anti-war hype.

Britney Spears has more credibility than Mr Nash.
She combs her hair and doesnt speak out w/o facts..

Removing Saddam from power is preventitive maintanince.
If Clinton woulda removed Osama in 1998 as
preventive maintinance as he should have, when Osama was offered up to him, the world would have been safer place.

Klaus you know the issues but I will still buy you a haircut, nonetheless.


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I want to know why I'm supposed to care what a Pro Basketball Player's thoughts are on the pending war. What makes this guy's opinion matter?
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