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Old 07-01-2005, 05:34 PM   #16
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There were training camps inside Iraq before the war. It's not like the insurgents all come from far away places.
None of which had anything to do with 9/11. You can try and make all the ties you want but they just don't exist.
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Old 07-01-2005, 06:04 PM   #17
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What training camps? Surely not Al-Queda or anyother Moslem terrorist group. The only training camps were anti-Turkish Kurdish peshmerga camps in the North. None of which had anything to do woith America.

The fact is, WE brought Queda to Iraq. There was no insurgency or terrorist prescense. Not in the 9/11 sense. Ironically, we breought them there. And the Iraqis know this.
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^ that was your 666th post...
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Old 07-01-2005, 06:16 PM   #19
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I agree with Teta040 and BonoVox, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Now Saudi Arabia, that's a different story. Funny how 15 of 19 hijackers were Saudi and nothing is even said to that country. That has bewildered me ever since that day.
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Old 07-01-2005, 06:30 PM   #20
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The fact that we had to keep troops in Saudi Arabia and in Kuwait for years and years after the Gulf War has everything to do with Iraq. It has everything to do with 9/11 and the terrorist acts committed against the US since the Gulf War. Let's not kid ourselves...the US Government decided in 1998 under President Clinton to do everything possible to remove Saddam from power because there needed to be a change in the area so that we did not have to keep such bases in the region.
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The fact that we had to keep troops in Saudi Arabia and in Kuwait for years and years after the Gulf War has everything to do with Iraq. It has everything to do with 9/11 and the terrorist acts committed against the US since the Gulf War. Let's not kid ourselves...the US Government decided in 1998 under President Clinton to do everything possible to remove Saddam from power because there needed to be a change in the area so that we did not have to keep such bases in the region.
Still don't see how you're making those ties...
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Old 07-02-2005, 08:42 PM   #22
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Bin Ladens aim of getting US forces out of Saudi Arabia layed out clearly in his declaration of Jihad in 1996
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"Message from Osama bin Laden to his Muslim Brothers in the Whole World and Especially in the Arabian Peninsula: Declaration of Jihad Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Mosques; Expel the Heretics from the Arabian Peninsula."
In an interview with Al Quds al Arabi the same year
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"The presence of the American crusader armed forces in the countries of the Islamic Gulf is the greatest danger and the biggest harm that threatens the world's largest oil reserves The infidels must be thrown out of the Arabian Peninsula."
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Bin Ladens aim of getting US forces out of Saudi Arabia layed out clearly in his declaration of Jihad in 1996

In an interview with Al Quds al Arabi the same year.
Ok so what exactly is your point?
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There were training camps inside Iraq before the war. It's not like the insurgents all come from far away places.
where in the north, no fly zone?

basically owned and controlled by us.


those Kurdish training camps wanted to defeat Saddam,
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No, Ansar al Islam was a group affiliated with Al Qaeda and was fighting against the PUK, it was not "owned and controlled" by the US, it was fighting against your Kurdish allies.
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