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Old 12-12-2005, 05:32 PM   #16
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there's a Rita Cosby interview with him from last month here

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10252436/from/RL.3/
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Old 12-12-2005, 05:37 PM   #17
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Devil's advocate here. So it's inhumane to execute a justified murderer through lethal injection. While he savagly killed another human being. So if your son was kiddnapped or daughter and they were rapped tortured and then bluggoned to death, you would not want to see him/her die.
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I don't care if he's redeemed himself or changed in prison.

The death penalty is wrong, and it would be wrong even if he was completely unrepentant.
I agree.

As for Ahnold's decision, it was probably congruous with the law...I have a hard time using the word "right" though..
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Just the fact he was the co founder of the crips (and the crips are responsible for a lot of deaths) I never saw him being granted clemency.

Theres just too much blood on this mans hands that no amount of childrens books will ever wash away.
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So if your son was kiddnapped or daughter and they were rapped tortured and then bluggoned to death, you would not want to see him/her die.
No, I would not.
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Devil's advocate here. So it's inhumane to execute a justified murderer through lethal injection. While he savagly killed another human being. So if your son was kiddnapped or daughter and they were rapped tortured and then bluggoned to death, you would not want to see him/her die.
I don't believe in vengeance. I find it personally immoral. However, I have no problems with life in prison with no possibility of parole.

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Just the fact he was the co founder of the crips (and the crips are responsible for a lot of deaths) I never saw him being granted clemency.

Theres just too much blood on this mans hands that no amount of childrens books will ever wash away.
There's also the fact that killing him won't wash away the blood either. It just adds to the pile.

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I support the death penalty in some cases, none of which are present here.
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Old 12-12-2005, 06:46 PM   #24
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Anitram you say you wouldn't but I am sure if it did happen to you like it has to many people, your mind would change.
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I support the death penalty in some cases, none of which are present here.
I'll bite. Under what circumstances? Treason, war crimes??
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:03 PM   #26
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Anitram you say you wouldn't but I am sure if it did happen to you like it has to many people, your mind would change.
I thought you were Devils Advocate, now you are suggesting anitram is wrong in her response. So you aren't Devils Advocate? If you want to take a position, fine, but don't play the fence and then criticize the response. Thanks.

I wouldn't want the death penalty either. Here in Canada, a recent release of Karla Homolka, who was convicted along with Paul Bernardo for the slaying of two young teenage girls, caused a huge uproar. Bernardo got life with no parole. She served her complete sentence of 12 years ( not sure) and was released with certain conditions but then a court overruled the conditions leaving her to be completely free. Anyway, the public and the family of the victims response is not she should have been killed for her crimes. It is she should have been given a stiffer sentence or still have condtions applied to her release as many feel she may still be a threat to society. Generally, Canadians along with the rest of the world's democracies, don't agree with the death sentence, we believe in justice, not as melon stated, vengeance.
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Old 12-12-2005, 07:08 PM   #27
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Anitram you say you wouldn't but I am sure if it did happen to you like it has to many people, your mind would change.
Why is anitram's response so hard to believe? Just because you feel differently doesn't give you the right to assume what people would or would not feel about things like this. That's awfully presumptuous of you.

I, for one, agree with anitram and melon.

Edit: And Trevster.
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Anitram you say you wouldn't but I am sure if it did happen to you like it has to many people, your mind would change.
Why do you assume that you know what has "happened" to me?

If I actually shared some details of my private life with you, I could really embarrass you here with regards to this comment you just made.
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I am not critizing her. Why do people feel for the murderer and never the victims. If some one is murdered yes the family will get support from other family members and a few friends. But when a convicted murderer who get's the Death penalty is about to be executed they have Vigils for them, protests to stop their death.
Mabey the murderer should have thought about what he/she was about to do.

Antriam what ever you have hidden is your own private business and if you do want to tell me PM me.
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Why do people feel for the murderer and never the victims.
Who says that people can't have compassion for both? Just because we don't want the murderer to be killed doesn't mean that we don't feel for the victims.

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But when a convicted murderer who get's the Death penalty is about to be executed they have Vigils for them, protests to stop their death.
Because killing someone for killing someone is wrong, and they don't want to add even more blood to that which has already been shed.
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