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Old 12-13-2005, 07:13 PM   #226
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I am not falling off the debate. He chose to create a monster (the crips) he chose to go and robb and kill those people. He should know the consiquenses of his actions. You cant be that stupid to know you might be executed.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:15 PM   #227
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Deprived liberty cannot be returned.
No it can't. That's why I said a sentence can stop at any time, not be returned.

But if I was innocent even if I was only allowed 5 minutes of freedom, it would be the sweetest 5 minutes and would sure beat dying in prison.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:18 PM   #228
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So you would rather torture a murderer by keeping him alive in prison.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:19 PM   #229
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Why should I have to.
See VintagePunk's argument earlier, you pay the same if not more for the system we have now that does allow death.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:19 PM   #230
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does it matter to you either way what I think?
um... nope. not one bit. as I'm sure you don't care what anyone else thinks either.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:21 PM   #231
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I am not falling off the debate. He chose to create a monster (the crips) he chose to go and robb and kill those people. He should know the consiquenses of his actions. You cant be that stupid to know you might be executed.
I'm not arguing the crimes here. Yes people commit crimes, we don't know under what circumstances, but that is beside the point.

Everyone agrees the crimes are wrong.

The point is allow God to make the FINAL judgement, for we are not all knowing and therefore can't make these FINAL decisions of justice.
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Yes, but I was making a point. Supporters consider the death penalty to be absolute justice for a guilty man and not an act of violence or murder. I am saying that by killing an innocent life, the state is no better than the murderers they claim deserve death.
Gotcha...I'd still take it a step further though and say that the state killing the guilty ones is committing murder, whatever they choose to call it to make it sound justified and however *civilized* they think lethal injections are. It's all semantics.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:23 PM   #233
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So you would rather torture a murderer by keeping him alive in prison.
Posts this in the torture threads, you'll get a great laugh!!!
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Does it say anywhere in the Bible, Koran, Torah, that executing a convicted person can not be executed.
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What made you a person who is Anti-Death Penalty?
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Does it say anywhere in the Bible, Koran, Torah, that executing a convicted person can not be executed.
It says thou shall not kill.

Love thy enemy.

Love thy neighbor as thyself.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:29 PM   #237
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What made you a person who is Anti-Death Penalty?
Common sense.

I know there's no guarantee. If we allow one innocent person killed because we're blinded by our vengence, then we are no better than the murderers and rapists.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:29 PM   #238
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The prophets who are speaking to god said this, this is a suggestion. except for the Thou shalt not kill. But The murderers dont follow this.
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Old 12-13-2005, 07:32 PM   #239
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The prophets who are speaking to god said this, this is a suggestion.
Well this is a whole religious debate that can have 20 pages of debate itself.

But no those paticular lines are from the commandments, which are believed to be from God.

And Jesus himself.
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I respect your opinion Bonovox and I hope you do the same with me.
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