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Old 08-05-2004, 03:10 PM   #46
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For the record I have not had cable tv in almost 3 years, so I am speaking of the CNN I knew before that. It was always historically left. Again, hello? TED TURNER JANE FONDA station???
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BP, if you're going to get into media ownership you're not going to have much of a leg to stand on. I doubt the Viacom (owns CBS) General Electric (owns NBC) and Disney (owns ABC) are terribly left-leaning organizations.
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Waaaaaait a minute. You're continually arguing that CNN is far left, and you haven't even watched it in 3 years?? Solid argument.
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That's why nbc thinks Fox News leans too far to the left.
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Old 08-05-2004, 04:26 PM   #51
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Waaaaaait a minute. You're continually arguing that CNN is far left, and you haven't even watched it in 3 years?? Solid argument.
Look, if you're going to ridicule my posts at least read the entire thing. I said, I was going by the CNN I remember, historically, all through the 90's and even the late 80's.
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I know you were saying that, but going by the CNN you remember doesn't exactly translate well to an argument about today's news.
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it can.

but it can also depend on research looking at the viewpoints they host, the time they give to them and, just as importantly, items or perspectives that are never raised or are given curt attention.

one could argue none of these all news networks provided any liberal perspective on the second war in iraq, aside from the protests which i think we all would agree were rarely treated with the depth that they deserved. why was this so? for the simple fact that they are selling a product and the war was 'exciting'. what was the common classification of guest during this period? id be willing to put money down it was military retirees or 'experts' who presented a perspective which would be expected of them.

blueberry poptart, the political leanings of a broadcast owner are not neccessarily indicative of their media outlets chosen spectral position. editors, producers, commentators and journalists could all be said to play a bigger role but even these are superceded by the demand for a desired product.

as i said, imo, cnn has moved toward the center in response to fox's broad claim to the right. someone else remarked they perceived cnn moving more to the right, this could be because this is where they have determined the market has headed.

please dont ever put words in my mouth. i never suggested you or anyone else were lacking intelligence. thank you.
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I saw this post on another forum and I really have nothing to add (although all the emphasis is mine). So here it is, courtesy of dannya:

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Mark McKinnon, the media director for the Bush campaign, said, "We think it's unfortunate these particular fine musicians have decided to affiliate with a hate-filled fringe group like MoveOn.'' Republicans have complained about a video briefly posted on MoveOn's Web site in December likening Mr. Bush to Hitler.

Mr. McKinnon added that Mr. Bush had drawn his own support from the entertainment world, citing stars like Lee Ann Womack, Kid Rock and Jessica Simpson.
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Kid Rock and Jessican Simpson vs. REM, Dylan, Bonnie Raitt and ( ) Springsteen. Enough said.



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as i said, imo, cnn has moved toward the center in response to fox's broad claim to the right. someone else remarked they perceived cnn moving more to the right, this could be because this is where they have determined the market has headed.
I'm inclined to agree with this. The media, quite frankly, is not an institution I hold in particularly high regard. They are just trying to sell a product, and sometimes they are guilty of trying to sell some real . They're after the Almighty Buck. And it's not about being liberal or conservative, necessarily. I can get absolutely furious at liberals, and I'm even a lefty. I just wonder which faction of the Democratic Party some of these holes are from sometimes, and if they're not pushing their own agenda at someone else's expense because that other person is from another Party faction.
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Schwarzenegger, Eastwood, Stallone and Willis - Republicans.
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I don't see the media as "left" leaning or right leaning either. I just see sensational leaning. You would think the embarrassement they should still feel from the debacle of reporting in the 90's when the right was trying to bring down a President by any means possible, would have made a difference. The astronomical number of false reports fed continually to the press including: the Washington Post, Wall Street Journal and New York Time's (and CNN reported much of it also) is mind blowing. Of course they went back and retracted a great deal of these erroneous and down right false reports, but the damage was already done since many do not see the retractions, they just see or hear the original report. I would suggest one read The Hunting of the President by Joe Conason & Gene Lyons. It's been out for few years, but I just got around to reading it. Thing is if it's sensational, it get's reported no matter if it's right/left or just wrong.
As far as the right of artist to have a concert for change, I'm all for it! of course. Wish I could go, but they won't be any where near enough to my state.
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