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Old 11-03-2008, 06:49 PM   #526
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Fucking skywriters over my house right now.

Not the cheap, one-plane kind. No. Catholics and Mormons have money to burn. These are the expensive, six-plane skywriters.

Why didn't the Klan think of this 40 years ago?

You have got to be kidding???
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Fucking skywriters over my house right now.

Not the cheap, one-plane kind. No. Catholics and Mormons have money to burn. These are the expensive, six-plane skywriters.

Why didn't the Klan think of this 40 years ago?
just individuals "voting their conscience"...........no church support....none...no no....of course not......

I pulled a few yes on 8 flyers out of the ground near my work today and someone actually stopped and thanked me, there's hope yet......
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Skywriters??!?

If that were a comedy show skit, it would be funny...
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And over northern Orange County, where it's a toss-up.
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I saw a neighbor around the block with a No on 8 sign on their lawn. They were also taking masking tape to their car and writing out 'No on 8' on their windows



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Calling someone a bigot who IS a bigot is merely stating a fact.
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Calling someone a bigot who IS a bigot is merely stating a fact.

That may be true. But it's unlikely you'll change their minds.

I think the charges of racist, bigot, and yes even homophobe are not partiuclarly useful (even if true). Someone posted a great video in FYM awhile back where this guy talks about the difference between calling someone a racist and in pointing out that they've said something racist and pointing out how much more productive the latter is.

I guess part of it is I really believe that 99.9% of us harbor bigoted attitudes of some sort.
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That may be true. But it's unlikely you'll change their minds.

I think the charges of racist, bigot, and yes even homophobe are not partiuclarly useful (even if true). Someone posted a great video in FYM awhile back where this guy talks about the difference between calling someone a racist and in pointing out that they've said something racist and pointing out how much more productive the latter is.

I guess part of it is I really believe that 99.9% of us harbor bigoted attitudes of some sort.
Maybe so, but if one is brazen enough to put it on display one ought to be prepared to be called on it.
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I guess part of it is I really believe that 99.9% of us harbor bigoted attitudes of some sort.
That may be so.

But 99.9% of us aren't trying to codify our bigotry in statute.
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I think Sean was thinking in terms of the possibility of changing minds rather than taking a stand only.

For better and for worse, a civil rights movement needs to do both.
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That may be so.

But 99.9% of us aren't trying to codify our bigotry in statute.
True. All I am saying is that if we're going convince people to stop trying to codify their bigotry in law then starting by calling them bigots probably isn't going to help. It might make us feel better but won't do much to further our point of view.

I mean, have you ever met anyone, no matter how bigoted and hate-filled who would actually admit to being a bigot? "Well, when you put it like that--you're right. I really AM a hate filled bigot?" Doesn't happen.
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True. All I am saying is that if we're going convince people to stop trying to codify their bigotry in law then starting by calling them bigots probably isn't going to help. It might make us feel better but won't do much to further our point of view.
That only works if you believe that coddling these people and allowing special leeway for their religious bigotry is going to magically transform them. I don't believe that is the case, so we may as well call a spade a spade.
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That only works if you believe that coddling these people and allowing special leeway for their religious bigotry is going to magically transform them. I don't believe that is the case, so we may as well call a spade a spade.
My daughter owns a bible, she is "no on 8", and she pointed this out to me:

"So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you."
[Matthew 7:12.]

Did the Latter-Day-Bigots, the Roman-bigots and the Evangelical bigots ALL miss the "everything" ????
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when i was called a defender of child molestation because i somehow have not been more outspoken on the subject by not releasing my own youtube denunciations of sex tourism in Thailand, then i felt as if calling that person was a bigot was entirely appropriate.

here, in FYM, since i "know" the few people who disagree with me on this issue, i feel perfectly comfortable saying to them that they are bigots when it comes to homosexuality. there's no way around it. it's absolutely bigoted to say that, always and in all ways, a heterosexual relationship is superior to a homosexual relationship, just as it's bigoted to say that there is only one kind of acceptable family.

however, in the broad sense, sean is absolutely correct.
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