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Old 04-07-2006, 08:20 PM   #1
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South Park Takes on MoToon

Great episode of South Park tackles the Mohammed Cartoon controversy, raises some good point about freedom of speech in the face of retrograde ideas
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Cartman and Kyle are at war over the popular cartoon, “Family Guy.” Kyle loves “Family Guy” and hates Cartman. The two boys embark upon a mad chase across the country and the fate of “Family Guy” lies with the first boy to reach Hollywood.
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i think it was hilarious last week. can't wait for part 2. it's great how they expose Family Guy's shitty humor. it's like the time....oh wait.....
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I especially liked the defending free speech versus believing in free speech (with limits)



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Hmm, Trey Parker and Matt Stone were a bit sneaky in the way they incorporated this social issue into their episode. They didn't take into acocunt the context in which Mohummad was used in the media recently (cartoons). They seemed to only focus on the fact that Islams are angry because there is simply a mention of Mohummad. But the malicious context of the cartoons was ignored to make it more black and white.
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I don't think the guy who actually drew the cartoon was completely innocent and shouldn't be treated as some sort of hero. The intent of the cartoon was malicious. I'm not saying he should have been censored. As an artist, I can't hack censorship. But also as an artist he should have considered the consequence of his work. I've done stuff I didn't think was appropriate for public viewing and I've decided not to show it. A picture of Mohammed with a bomb on his head bothers me. There's something unfair about it.
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Nothing at all unfair about it, Muslims kill umbelievers, unbelievers get to mock their so-called prophet.
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It's not fair in the sense that not all Muslims are terrorists, and this cartoon perpetrated a Western stereotype. It's like the Crusades, something we Catholics are not particularly proud of. If all Muslims were terrorists, I wouldn't be getting ready to go to a Muslim country.
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I am not allowed to go to Saudi Arabia. Why should one respect a religion that is opposed to ones ideological existence?
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The guy should have drawn a picture of Muhammed ibn Abd al-Wahhab with a bomb on his head, not Mohammed. Wahhab was the Sunni' nutcase who made the concept of jihad holy war, and is responsible for all the crud going on in Saudi Arabia today. I'm not allowed to go there either.
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The Caliphate had expanded by both cultural and military conquest well before the 18th Century, jihad as holy war existed before then.
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The Caliphate had expanded by both cultural and military conquest well before the 18th Century, jihad as holy war existed before then.
Yes. But this religious tradition also gave us Celaleddin Rumi, the great Turkish mystic and poet known by Muslims as the Mevlana, the founder of the Whirling Dervishes. I'm going to visit his tomb in Turkey. He's been called the Shakespeare of Islam. He was followed not only by Muslims but by Christians, Jews, and Zoroastrians because his message was universal love. He said "If you count the courtyards of all the buildings on which the sun shines there are hundreds of houses, but if you remove the walls all these pieces of light are one and the same". He never shed a drop of blood in his life. It was just about the last thing he wanted to do. The concept of jihad as holy war has been called "folk Islam".
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But one does not wipe out the other, humanist philosophers in Christian states do not undo the barbarism inflicted by religious zealotry, even though they were each a product of the underlying principles.
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The intent of the cartoon was malicious.
Are you basing this conclusion on a statement of the artist or on the response to the cartoon?
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