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Old 04-22-2002, 11:21 PM   #1
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Some Religious-Extremists Annoy me to DEATH!

Some Religious-Extremists Annoy me to DEATH!

Sorry but I had to spill the beans on this issue..

I live in a dorm on a college campus where about 2 weeks ago, this guy set up a movie on a projector in the courtyard and some people were watching some movie an as i was goin to my room..the guy comes over an asks me "Do you wanna watch a movie about god?" an i reply with a nice "uhh sorry i'm busy tonight" because it was a FRIDAY night for christs sake, i'd rather party an get drunk and/or get my groove on with some girls, heh, than sit around an watch a gay-*** boring god/christian flick with h***'s on a friday night. Then i see him last weekend an he knocks on MY DOOR, my personal living space to ask me if i wanna watch another flick, i say maybe, an he leaves a flyer that reads: "A Distant Thunder" With all the christians gone, the nightmare has just begun. (to me, it's the oppolsite, nightmare ends when they're GONE, POOF). I was about to throw profanities 'Excorcist-style' at him for not leaving me alone and i was gonna go uhh 'do you have a ****, man or 'do something normal like get drunk or watch a porno flick dude' but i didn't. jeezus really makes me mad when they try to convert ya. next time i see him i dunno what i'm gonna do. Since being at school, i've had other situations... some people will come up to ya an they wanna pray for ya soo uhh i pretend cuZ i really don't believe in taking a religion to the extremes like this one family i had easter dinner with last year, they'd pray a million times an they watched book of mathews video or some boring crap. they also took me with em to some prayer garden where THEY(not me) drank water from a supposedly 'holy' striken fountain and sang christian tunes abt jesus, god til i got a headache an wanted some real music(u2, of course). an i went to a good-friday service with em too which was dumb too with girls talking about how they worship their church's tshirts with pride they were wearing that day. i regret doing all this cuz i really did not have fun at all with ppl asking me 'whats your favorite bible verse?' or 'did you know jesus was your saviour?'. ugh i'm disgusted. they an my former best-friend(who's christian too) don't like u2 cuz they think they're not christians. i know they're christians but i like going to they're concerts an listening/watching to them perform at they're best rather than live as a religious-nut for the majority of my life.

i still do believe there is a god.

the reason i'm pissed is cuz i have a disability an these ppl think that because i have a disability... i need god which really isn't me. i'm getting a apartment in may finally after 3 yrs of being on-campus soo hopefully no more of these encounters.

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Old 04-22-2002, 11:24 PM   #2
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They might want you to edit some of your slang in this post.

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Old 04-22-2002, 11:28 PM   #3
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Reading through your post again, it reminds me all-too-much of z edge forcing that aggressive neighbor of his to watch his Elevation.

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Jesse,

Passionate believers have approached me in similar ways, like you described. I donít blame you for being upset. I no longer allow them to waste my time. Next time just tell them, ďNo thank you, I have no interest.Ē These people have nothing to do with your salvation.

I donít think you need to edit your post.
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though i can see where your coming from, i still think your conscience is bothering you.

afterall, christians arent all bad ya know...

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Old 04-23-2002, 12:37 AM   #6
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though i wasnt around any of your encounters with those terrible and wicked people, i dont believe its necessarily fair to call them fanatics.

often it will feel that way, and i really cant stand it either.

a great man told me recently "act and if someone asks, tell"

i dont think i need to explain that. its perfectly put.

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Old 04-23-2002, 01:08 AM   #7
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My brother.
Is this what happens when I leave you alone?

Oh dear.
Why dont you ring me the next time youre getting harrassed by the Bible thumpers?
Man you are funny little brother.
Did you give any of them a smack?

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Old 04-23-2002, 07:47 AM   #8
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College campuses are always ripe for cults and fanatics. The Woronieckis (a.k.a., Andrea Yates' cult leader) visit my old campus regularly. And boy...literally everyone is going to hell according to that lunatic.

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Hi jesseu2,

I know how you feel and guess what, I am a Christian myself. Now, although I'm strong in my beliefs, I am not the radical evangelist type. I don't like doing 'street evangelism' (approaching people on the street) because I feel that it's not natural and furthermore maybe turns away more people than attracts them. I used to be involved with these forms of evangelism, though, and the experience taught me that I'm just not the kind of person to strike up a conversation about God, with an agenda in mind. I like to talk about God like how you'd talk to someone about U2: bursting with enthusiasm and pride.

Still, I see where these so-called "fanatics" come from. Some of them are real nutcases, but most of them really are sincere and grounded. Just imagine; your friends would get tired of you if you talked about U2 all the time, right? But what if you think they truly are the best band on earth and you're thinking, why can't my friends just see that?

It's the same with some Christians. They just can't help themselves. God is their life. I know some newly converted Christians can't stop talking about Jesus because it was such a revelation to them that the Lord forgave them. It's like they felt the world was hiding this big secret and suddenly they were in on it, too--hence the excitement to tell others about it. That's why they come across as fanatic.

The way I see it, all this dorm-mate of yours did was invite you to a Christian movie twice. Sure, you hate the way he talked or his approach. But it's not like he is stalking you or anything, right? Chill, mate. Salesgirls in the shops are worse; they spray perfume at you without you even asking and jump at you so that you're scared to even make eye contact while walking past (ok I'm talking about myself here, heh). You don't get all angry and worked up over those salesgirls, now do you?


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Gult is also a factor for some of these people. I have been to churches where they beat up people with the idea if they are not out on the streets evangelizing and knocking on doors they are committing sin. They scare them to death...

So when they come up to me I have a little more compassion for them...because I know where they are coming from. Their style may not be their idea...they might rather be doing anything else but they have been bullied into it.

Its also part of having freedom of religion. I don't mind putting up with them...when they come...and I send them on their way with a smile...I sometimes have to keep telling myself through gritted teeth that that is the price we pay here for having the first amendment. Freedom isn't free and that sort of thing...

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What yarof said.
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Hi jesseu2,
Let me start by saying that it's probably not your disability that caused this Christian to talk to you. If he's like most of us Christians, he wants everyone saved. He probably asked everybody that came by that night if they wanted to see the movie. No harm in that. By saying "I'm busy tonight", you left the possibility open for maybe another time. Next time, if you're not interested, just simply say "I'm not interested. Please don't ask again."
I do have to ask why are you really so angry about this? Many Christians do go about it the wrong way, and are too intrusive. Maybe this guy was, I don't know. But please don't judge all Christians and especially Christ himself by that kind of Christian. I can tell you from experience that if we Christians tell you about Jesus and salvation, it's because we care what happens to you. Those things that you thought about saying to that guy, some people actually do say them to Christians who are witnessing. Do you think people would subject themselves to that if they didn't really believe in Christ and care about what happens to you?
Jesus does indeed love you. He wants you to place your faith in him. You can take it or leave it; it is your choice. But I can tell you from experience that my decision to follow him was the best decision I've ever made in my 34 year life.
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I agree, to a limited extent, with deathbear, foray and dream wanderer about people's different styles of evangelism and what they have always known, but I personally do not see this modern-day hell-fire and brimstone tactic of using movies that fictionalize prophecy to scare people into becoming Christians asa good method. There are so many more POSITIVE things about following Christ than getting scared by some doomsday film adaptation.

And "Deep," I think he edited most of the slang before most people read it; it wasn't necessarily anti-Christian slang...

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Jesse begins:

Some Religious-Extremists Annoy me to DEATH!
Sorry but I had to spill the beans on this issue..

Jesse closes with:

I still do believe there is a god.


I donít find Jesseís remarks anti-Christian or even anti religious.

a great man told me recently "act and if someone asks, tell" - deathbear

Sounds good to me. Maybe we should call this. Donít ask, but if asked, tell.


I am suspicious of some peopleís motives. It is a bit arrogant to assume one knows what is best for other people. Sometimes, I wonder if it is about self-aggrandizement. They donít deserve a free pass because you can empathize with them. Would some of us be sympathetic with them if it was a different belief system?

I have faith that Jesse is capable of making his own choices. And investigating or asking questions about things that interest him.
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I donít find Jesseís remarks anti-Christian or even anti religious.
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I understand that his point wasn't that he didn't believe in God, or even that he dislikes most Christians, but that he doesn't like being witnessed to. However, the inclusion of the following two statements could lead someone to believe that he has something against Christians.

"With all the christians gone, the nightmare has just begun. (to me, it's the oppolsite, nightmare ends when they're GONE, POOF)."

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"a gay-*** boring god/christian flick with h***'s on a friday night."




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