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Old 04-28-2006, 08:49 AM   #121
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thanks my oasis of FYM kindness

well to be accurate one of my few/several depending upon the day I suppose
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I didn't realize teaching your kids tolerance was such a big deal.
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Old 04-29-2006, 12:32 AM   #124
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I wonder how many of you posting have read the book in question.
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Actually I would like to see and read the book, I wonder if Barnes and Noble sells it. If they do they're probably all sold out by now, great publicity for the book by those parents. As "liberal" as some people may think the principal and school system is there, I can't believe that the book is in any way more explicit or "indoctrinating" than I imagine it is. I can't believe the school system would approve it if it was.

I guess it will all be resolved in court somehow
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Old 04-29-2006, 10:16 AM   #126
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So when it comes to learning about blacks and Hispanics, do parents get notified with an opt-out clause?

What if I don't want my children learning about WWII? What if my religious beliefs state that the world is flat, and a science textbook says it is round? Do I get to sue?

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Old 04-29-2006, 11:39 AM   #127
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Some parents are idiots and should never have been allowed to breed in the first place.

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Do you have children? I'm just curious how many people posting on this forum have children.
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Do you have children? I'm just curious how many people posting on this forum have children.
I don't. But does it matter? I remember being a child myself. I remember how adaptable and understanding I was as a child, as long as things were explained to me rationally. I also remember being afraid of things only when I was told to be afraid of them.

None of this is about "protecting the children." This is all about justifying the parents' time-honored bigotry. For most people, to learn that what their own parents taught them was wrong would bring on sadness. I think, ultimately, this is the real culprit.

If I ever choose to have children someday (and I feel no pressure one way or another right now), they're going to get the full truth out of me. If they're six years old and curious about the human body and sexual anatomy, I'm cracking out the medical diagrams. Any shame in this regard is not instinctual and is a long outdated cultural construct.

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Old 04-29-2006, 01:30 PM   #129
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Do you have children? I'm just curious how many people posting on this forum have children.
Seriously, what would this matter?

The question still rings true, why should this issue be treated any different than interacial couples, people of different religions, etc?
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It is not an unusual type of question to ask in this forum. Peronsal experience, or lack of personal experience may affect (or is suggested to affect) any given viewpoint (or question the validity thereof).
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It is not an unusual type of question to ask in this forum. Peronsal experience, or lack of personal experience may affect (or is suggested to affect) any given viewpoint (or question the validity thereof).
True, but not one person has really answered the question as to why this book comes with the opt-out and others don't. So I really can't see where the fact that I have children or not would make a difference.
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Since the book system in question is targeted to children, a parental view may differ than a more general view.
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Since the book system in question is targeted to children, a parental view may differ than a more general view.
If there's an implied disdain towards those who don't have children, I could also start asking questions in regards to the education level and intelligence of those who are parents versus those who are not parents. There are statistics regarding that as well.

But this is not a tangent I wish to go on in this thread. Likewise, I don't think playing the "parent card" is a particularly wise tangent either.

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I was merely pointing that the form of question has been used before - not a comment on the substantive value of the question. If I recal, you like to toss in similar comments (straight, white, Christian, for example) in threads.
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Since the book system in question is targeted to children, a parental view may differ than a more general view.
Ok, then why this book and not others? I'm just trying to get people to answer this question honestly.
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