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Old 01-31-2008, 09:22 AM   #1
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Soldiers Suicide Rates Increase.

WASHINGTON - As many as 121 Army soldiers committed suicide in 2007, a jump of more than 20 percent over the year before, officials said Thursday.

The rise comes despite numerous efforts over the past year to improve the mental health of a force stressed by a longer-than-expected war in Iraq and the most deadly year yet in the now six-year-old conflict in Afghanistan.

Internal briefing papers prepared by the Army's psychiatry consultant earlier this month show there were 89 confirmed suicides last year and 32 deaths that are suspected suicides and still under investigation.

More than a quarter of those — about 34 — did so while serving a tour of duty in Iraq, an increase from 27 in Iraq the previous year, according to the preliminary figures.

The report also showed an increase in the number of attempted suicides and self-injuries — some 2,100 in 2007 compared to less than 1,500 the previous year and less than 500 in 2002.

The total of 121 suicides last year, if all are confirmed, would be double the 52 reported in 2001, before the Sept. 11 attacks prompted the Bush administration to launch its counter-terror war.

Officials said the rate of suicides per 100,000 active duty soldiers has not yet been calculated for 2007. But in a half million-person active duty Army, the 2006 toll of 101 translated to a rate of 17.5 per 100,000, the highest since the Army started counting in 1980, officials said. The rate has fluctuated over those years, with the low being 9.1 per 100,000 in 2001.


If anyone is interested there is a great website to send soldiers cards, letters, anything that is listed on the website.

www.anysoldier.com
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The report also showed an increase in the number of attempted suicides and self-injuries — some 2,100 in 2007 compared to less than 1,500 the previous year and less than 500 in 2002.
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wow. to me that's just as shocking a number.
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where are the war supporters? and why aren't they spinning this into a good thing? and why don't they consider this absolutely necessary to the removal of Saddam Hussein which was the most important thing that's ever happened?
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where are the war supporters? and why aren't they spinning this into a good thing? and why don't they consider this absolutely necessary to the removal of Saddam Hussein which was the most important thing that's ever happened?
I predict one post saying, "That's a total exxageration" and completely missing the point you're trying to make, one comparing it to the Gulf War and mentioning three UN resolutions Saddam violated, and one saying to vote for Ron Paul to avoid all of this.
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it just amazes me that people who claim to love the armed forces won't even bother pointing something like this out as yet another cost of going to war. seems to me like they hate the soldiers, like they really do think of them as nothing more than cannon fodder.
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Vote for Ron Paul to avoid all of this.
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it just amazes me that people who claim to love the armed forces won't even bother pointing something like this out as yet another cost of going to war. seems to me like they hate the soldiers, like they really do think of them as nothing more than cannon fodder.
I think the problem is they don't consciously recognize that their thought process is flawed.
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it just amazes me that people who claim to love the armed forces won't even bother pointing something like this out as yet another cost of going to war. seems to me like they hate the soldiers, like they really do think of them as nothing more than cannon fodder.
Overall, the death rate amongst soldiers is much lower than at other times in our country's history - for example, during the Vietnam war.

While leftists and other malcontents will focus on statistics dealing with specific causes of military mortality such as suicides, those with a long term view realise that sacrifices are necessary, and in the broader sweep of history these are just numbers.

In addition, negative stories about the military help to give succour and support to the enemy, and should be avoided.
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Devil's advocate?
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The suicide rate for American males in 2002 was 17.9 per 100,000.
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Yes it's tragic. Who is really going to care and help them? One of the worst problems that Bush will leave behind.
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ANY death rate among soldiers is sad. Speak to any veteran returning from action. They don't come back the same individuals that they were. War is hell and it fu*k's you in the mind, heart, spirit and soul. Not to mention many of the health problems that plague most veterans.
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The suicide rate for American males in 2002 was 17.9 per 100,000.
That's not a good news.
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The suicide rate for American males in 2002 was 17.9 per 100,000.


what are the typical characteristics of someone prone to commit suicide, and are soldiers more or less likely to share these characteristics?

it seems to me that the comparison to the average suicide rate isn't what's important here -- in fact, it's almost STING-like in it's ability to divert from what's important -- but what's important is how much that rate has increased.
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what wanderer neglects here is that 17.9/100,000 is a general statistic.
What would be more helpful is a statistic for suicide rates amongst American soldiers in 2002.

this is a classic example of skewing statistics to support a particular position.
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