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Old 07-20-2006, 12:35 AM   #31
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Re: Re: Re: So, who wants Hillary Clinton for president?

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Of course that can't REALLY be true, as I'm a very conservative republican, and she's a black woman
But why don't you produce some real debate about Hillary and not just this same rhetorical shit?

That would be very new for you...
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Re: Re: Re: Re: So, who wants Hillary Clinton for president?

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But why don't you produce some real debate about Hillary and not just this same rhetorical shit?

That would be very new for you...

The pot calling the kettle black?.

"No we've taken too many steps backwardss socially in the Bush years..."
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Old 07-20-2006, 01:40 AM   #33
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Hillary for President?

No.

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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005...ry%20Meter.htm
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I did give reasons as to why I think people may not want Hillary, they're pretty simple. The biggest reasin IMO is that she is viewed as the battleaxe type by many. Now I'm not saying that's how she is (I don't know), but that IS her stereotype, just like Bush's stereotype is being extremely stupid (which isn't true). I think stereotypes do effect alot.

That and there has already been so much Clinton drama over the years. Bush being voted into the White House is different, as he wasn't married to his father. When Bush Jr. was elected his dad and mom didn't move back into the White House, but if Hillary is voted in the same family will be going into the White House, which just seems really weird to me (and others I've asked about it).

And I agree that we've taken too many steps backwards socially since Bush has been in. I mean, racism has went up, discrimination against women among the general public has gone up etc. etc...

/sarcasm
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I think she would get elected because most Americans long for the days of Bill Clinton. You can saw all you want about the Clinton's but you can't deny the fact that Americans do not like where the country is going. Obviously, it's not just the Republican partie's fault but it wouldn't make sense to leave them in charge of the White House. It is time to give the Democrats a try to fix the problems of the country. Hilary is the best person to do that!
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The Republican attack dogs will murder Hillary Clinton.
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"Bitchy"?

Is Bush "bitchy"? I guess he's just the "decider"
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That and there has already been so much Clinton drama over the years. Bush being voted into the White House is different, as he wasn't married to his father.
I bet if the only reason why he didn't marry his father is his view on gay marriage though

beside that this entire statement makes little sense to me
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I agree with respect to the ability to conduct non-polarized political discourse.

In 2000, were their any women or African Americans even considered as candidates?

Now, we have Condi, Clinton and even Obama considered as candidates.

absolutely.

this is the fruit of years of affirmative action, and an example of it at it's finest -- we're seeing smart, capable people ascending to the very top of public political life in greater numbers than ever before.

now i'll wait for someone to think i'm denigrating women and minorities by crediting their success to affirmative action when, in reality, this is what affirmative action should do -- it enables highly qualified indviduals (usually white women, the #1 benificiaries of affirmative action) access to powerful institutions that they have historically been denied.
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Is Bush "bitchy"? I guess he's just the "decider"

not Bitchy, just bratty and prone to throwing tantrums like the spoiled little rich kid who's had everything handed to him on a silver platter he is and has always been.

anyway, i'd vote for HRC. i disagree with her hawkishness, but gender might force her to take such stances so that she's more Iron Lady than Earth Toned.

i can actually think of a Republican or two that i'd vote for before HRC, as well as several Demcrats, but if it were between her and your average Republican presidential candidate, i'd vote Hillary in a second.

however, i think it would usher in a new low in political dialogue as i can see the crustiest of the ass-slapping, go-make-us-coffee-sweetheart old white republican men being unable and unwilling to work with her.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So, who wants Hillary Clinton for president?

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The pot calling the kettle black?.

"No we've taken too many steps backwardss socially in the Bush years..."
WTF? What are you talking about, I've given valid examples. I'm not just spouting off rhetoric.

But nice try.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: So, who wants Hillary Clinton for president?

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WTF? What are you talking about, I've given valid examples. I'm not just spouting off rhetoric.

But nice try.

Oh, you're right. You're not JUST spouting off rhetoric.

But if you re-read the thread, neither is shart1780.
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^Well, so far he hasn't provided an example of bitchiness.
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^Well, so far he hasn't provided an example of bitchiness.
And what, might I add, does "bitchiness" have to do with anyone being a good or bad president? This is what I mean about "politics as entertainment."
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