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Old 10-20-2007, 09:18 PM   #391
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Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.
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Ron Paul has polled quite highly among the freaks' conference, which disturbs me.
Well, not only is he anti-abortion and anti-gay rights, but he's also for substantially lower taxes.

It's like a Religious Right wet dream.
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What values did they discuss, was it abortion and gay marriage? Or was it abortion and gay marriage? Did they ever talk about abortion and gay marriage? Oh, and did they mention abortion and gay marriage at all?
Totally! Why don't 50% of all of us who are Christians get divorced and further protect the sanctity of marriage?
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Barack Obama 9 0.16%
Joe Biden 5 0.09%
Hillary Clinton 5 0.09%
John Edwards 4 0.07%
Dennis Kucinich 4 0.07%
Christopher Dodd 2 0.03%
Bill Richardson 2 0.03%
Mike Gravel 1 0.02%
Uh oh...looks like 0.56% of them won't be invited to the next summit.
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Admittedly, though, these are the only two issues that the Religious Right seems to care about when selecting their politicians.
This is what I was getting at. It's also why the religious right is losing power - Christians are finally starting to wake up and call them out on being so narrow-minded. Poverty and the environment are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.
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Poverty .... are on God's mind, too. According to the Bible at least.
pfft


Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
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Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
I hope you're kidding. Of course I didn't mean it was a sin . . .
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Where in the Bible does Jesus say that being poor is a sin?



'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
I believe it's in Luke, right after He got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to His favorite televangelist.




I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.
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I believe it's in Luke, right after he got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to his favorite televangelist.




I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God and imply, or outright state that someone living in poverty is cursed for some wrong they've committed is absolutely sickening to me.
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'Cos then we can pass a law against it!
That would kick ass. Unfortunately, it would be considered discriminatory to those of us already below the poverty line, foreigners, and college students.
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I believe it's in Luke, right after He got his gold-plated chariot and his 3 million denaari mansion after sending in $74.33 to His favorite televangelist.

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I hope you're kidding. Of course I didn't mean it was a sin . . .
(My response was directed to the "issues" voters who seem to be generally hostile toward and frightened of the poor. You know, the very people Jesus hung out with.)
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I have no problem at all with a Christian (or anyone for that matter) being prosperous, but to claim it as some special blessing from God .
there are many, many examples in the Bible

of God blessing individuals that follow his admonitions with prosperity
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(My response was directed to the "issues" voters who seem to be generally hostile toward and frightened of the poor. You know, the very people Jesus hung out with.)
Right on. The Bible preaches about the poor more than anything else. It's a shame that's not done enough.
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there are many, many examples in the Bible

of God blessing individuals that follow his admonitions with prosperity
I think she may be kind of talking about the whole "prosperity gospel."
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