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Old 04-29-2006, 03:54 AM   #16
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Religion shouldn't matter in politics until it becomes apparent.
/\ the difference between Romney and Reid?
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Is he ^ Mormon? I suppose that explains his conservative stance on abortion.
I need to work on my disliking political leaders because of their religious beliefs. Prejudice is prejudice.
Nevertheless, I wish a person's religious beliefs didn't come into play at all in American politics.
There is good prejudice, one need not be tolerant of intolerance
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Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, Democrat-Mormon?
I forgot about him being a Mormon. Thanks for the reminder.

However, if you remember correctly, he was appointed to that position, because Democrats wanted to look conservative...heh.

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he strikes me as incredibly fake
He is

I don't care one iota about the fact that he is a Mormon, I do care that he is becoming more and more like an ultra conservative whatever and "changing his mind" on several things in order to become President. I also think he has been a poor Governor- then again he was just using it as a stepping stone, of course he's not the only one to ever do that. I didn't vote for him and I would never vote for him for President.
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His Mormonism doesn't mean anything to me. I have a Mormon friend who claims she's the only Democratic Mormon on the planet. If I lived in Massachusetts, I don't think I'd be voting for this guy based on on his policy, not his religion. It works the same way with Catholicism. Yesterday I got a fund-raising thingie in the mail from some right wing Catholic group that's crucifying James Carville for being pro-gay-marriage and a liberal in general. It ended up in my friendly local trash receptacle.
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Religion shouldn't matter in politics until it becomes apparent.
But that simply falls back to blurring the lines between personal faith and political/cultural stances. Often it is a surrogate for political discussion.

Are the people of Mass any closer to Mormonism as a result of Romney? Are the people of the US any closer to Christianity as a result of Bush?

I think the answer to both is: no.
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But that simply falls back to blurring the lines between personal faith and political/cultural stances.
Well this is exactly what I'm talking about. When one ignores logic and what's best for the people due to a personal religious belief, i.e. stem cell research.


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Are the people of the US any closer to Christianity as a result of Bush?
No, probably much further.
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Well this is exactly what I'm talking about. When one ignores logic and what's best for the people due to a personal religious belief, i.e. stem cell research.

Is it purely personal religious beliefs, or a set of cultural values that goes beyond matters of faith.
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Is it purely personal religious beliefs, or a set of cultural values that goes beyond matters of faith.
Well in the case of stem cell, it's just personal religious beliefs.
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I'm not sure I share the same conclusion. Evangelical Christianity has no specific teaching on stem cells. Step into the borader cultural realm of life (specifically, asking when life begins) and you struggle with this question.

If people of different faiths come to the same conclusion, is it still driven by faith, or a broader cultural notion?
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If people of different faiths come to the same conclusion, is it still driven by faith, or a broader cultural notion?
But even then, the traditional "cultural notions" are often influenced by religion; perhaps not the specific denominations of today, but just as humanity can trace itself to a few common cultural heritages (i.e., Indo-European for all of Europe and much of the Middle East), religion can be categorized in similar fashions.

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I won't vote for him. He did such a shoddy job of running Massachusetts. Why he took this job in the first place is beyond me!
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He may have been illegally mobilizing people and organizations within the church to fundraise for his candidacy - religious organizations aren't allowed to do so. Too lazy to dig up the articles now but they were in the Globe about a month ago.

If you go looking for those articles, make sure you click on the recent ones about his Mittness employing illegal immigrants to manicure his lawn. I'm pretty sure that'll sink his primary candidacy.
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Oh well, his lawn looks great courtesy of all those illegal immigrants his lawn company employed. Good thing they made it here before that 700 mile fence he endorses could be built, or his big fancy lawn would have been full of weeds and crabgrass.

He stands there screaming about letting the people vote on gay marriage while he takes a hatchet to critical human services. He's an opportunistic hypocrite.
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