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Old 05-30-2007, 03:03 PM   #256
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You're right, diamond. Affleck is on to something -- there are no good Republican candidates.
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This is from time.com

Mitt Romney's Disappointing Campaign

Mitt Romney is the fastest-talking presidential candidate I have ever seen. He dashes through his stump speech like a racehorse in full gallop — he even looks a bit equine — his feet barely touching the ground as he skims the surface of issues. He conveys a sense of power and fluency — and fun. He has a self-deprecating sense of humor and uses it to good effect. But his speed of delivery also has an element of sleight of hand. He moves so quickly, it's often hard to notice that there's not much nutrition being offered and much that is being avoided. He never mentions Iraq in his stump speech. He talks — well, offers one sentence — about the challenge of "global Islamic jihad." And because he doesn't dwell on it, his audiences don't. On a late-May New Hampshire swing, he cruised through two performances before the word Iraq perforated his balloon. And then it was a high school student, who simply asked, "What would you do about Iraq?"
Romney offered a welter of details, of Sunnis and Shi'ites and Kurds, which sounded sort of knowledgeable but was actually quite superficial — he said there was a risk that Iran would "take over" the Shi'ite areas, which is entirely unlikely — until finally, heading into the home stretch, he got to the point: he would support the President. In fact, when Romney slowed down and focused on a single issue — immigration — at a press conference in Dover, N.H., the brazen cynicism of his candidacy became almost embarrassing. He has flipped on immigration, to better suit the Mexican-fearing tendencies of a segment of the Republican base. He's against the comprehensive reform bill being considered by the Senate, and, of course, that's because the bill would offer a path to citizenship for the 12 million illegals currently in the country. A reporter asks, What would you do about them? Make them get in the back of the line. Would they have to leave the country to do that? Mumble mumble evasion. Would you be in favor of kicking them out? Oh, no, not that. Then what would you actually favor? "I'm not going to lay down a posture different from the others being considered." Interesting: Romney takes postures, not positions.
Romney is on a roll right now. He jumped ahead of the pack in recent Iowa polls, a consequence of television advertising — he was on the air in Iowa before any of his competitors — and his strong debate performances. He has the money to play big in the Iowa straw poll this August. He has a perfectly Republican demeanor, sunny and businesslike, and a perfectly Republican stump speech. He tells a Chamber of Commerce lunch in Rochester, N.H., about how he successfully applied business principles like "strategic auditing" to the problems of Massachusetts. And then he hits the Reaganite stations of the cross: "I believe Republican policies will strengthen America, and Democratic policies will weaken it." It's the same old strength: stronger military, stronger economy (through lower taxes), stronger families. "You know," he often says, very Reagan, "there are people out there who actually believe America is great because of its government." Gasps and groans. "Well, we have a great system of government, but America is great because of" — pause for effect, cue passion — "its people."
There is something slightly anachronistic about all this. Romney is the most perfect iteration I've seen of the television-era candidate. At one point, I squinted a bit and saw him in the middle distance: blue suit, white shirt, red tie, high forehead, slick black hair, tan, tall and ramrod straight — he could have been an exhibit in some future Museum of Natural History: Politicianus americanus. Matt Lauer and a Today show crew were following him around, and at the high school speech Romney did a slightly cheesy thing, inviting Lauer on stage, amping his candidacy with a.m. glitz. Romney said that "in a moment of frivolity" he had picked up a tabloid magazine and found that Lauer had been named the early-morning host with "the best bod in a bathing suit." To his credit, Lauer asked Romney a tough question about Iraq: What happens if things don't get better by September? "I don't like to forecast from failure," the candidate replied.
I suspect that Romney would be a better President than the current occupant of the office. He actually got along with Democrats, some of the time, as Governor of Massachusetts. He passed a universal health-care plan that, more generously funded, could be a model for a national system. But there isn't the slightest hint of courage or conviction in his stump act. It's a candidacy for the era before 2001, before things got serious. And his success or failure will be a reflection of how serious the electorate is in 2008.
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This is fun, too. The Top 10 Romney Gaffes.



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I suspect that Romney would be a better President than the current occupant of the office.
Well when you set the threshold so low...
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Well when you set the threshold so low...


i live with two bulldogs who would both be better presidents than the current protein-based life we've been subjected to for 6 years.
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So would that be president and vice president?

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So would that be president and vice president?



totally.

and as bulldogs go, the females are far more territorial and dominant than the males.

so, if we are to follow form with the current office, that makes Bart the Prez and Lucy the VP.
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Now, now breeders are people too.
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Complaint filed with IRS after Tampa televangelist compares Romney to Satan

By Alan Cooperman
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Posted June 1 2007, 10:44 AM EDT

WASHINGTON _ Florida evangelist Bill Keller says he was making a spiritual -- not political -- statement when he warned the 2.4 million subscribers to his Internet prayer ministry that ``if you vote for Mitt Romney, you are voting for Satan!''

But the Washington-based advocacy group Americans United for Separation of Church and State says the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) should revoke the 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status of Bill Keller Ministries, nonetheless.

Keller, 49, who has a call-in show on a Tampa television station and a Web site called Liveprayer.com, on May 11 sent out a ``daily devotional'' that called Romney ``an unabashed and proud member of the Mormon cult founded by a murdering polygamist pedophile named Joseph Smith nearly 200 years ago.

'' If the former Massachusetts governor wins the GOP nomination and the presidency, Keller's message added, it will ``ultimately lead millions of souls to the eternal flames of hell.''

In a letter to the IRS on Thursday, Americans United called Keller's message a violation of the ban on partisan politicking by tax-exempt religious groups.

Keller, in a telephone interview, laughed off the controversy. ``Let them come after me for making a spiritual statement about Mitt Romney. I would love that,'' he said. ``Bring it on.''


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Bill Keller is what is wrong with 'mainline' Christians.

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Bill Keller is as right
as those that condemn homosexuals as sinners.

He has as much right to voice his religious beliefs
as the anti-Gay religious people.
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Bill Keller is an anti gay zealot so I don't know where you're coming from.

I don't see the same zeal coming from Mitt, the LDS Church or many other Christian sects.

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Who the heck is Bill Keller? Never heard of him.
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He claims to be an Evangelical Mainline Christian who happens to hate what Catholics teach, what Mormons teach and what gay people represent.

Why don't you google him and see what you think.

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