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Old 12-11-2007, 02:35 PM   #106
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the Democrats are already calling him an "easy kill."



but then again, they've never gone up against someone who Jesus has personally endorsed before.
really??


how do you think the miracle in 2000 happened?

one loses an election
but gains the office?




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Bush told a Texan evangelist that he had had a premonition of some form of national disaster happening.

Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'

In another incident, Mansfield recounts how, on Palm Sunday last year, Bush was flying back from El Salvador aboard the presidential jet Air Force One and seemed to be destined to miss church.

However, knowing that Bush hated to miss a service, some officials suggested they worship in the air. Bush agreed, and soon 40 officials were crammed into the plane's conference room. The service was led by National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, while the lesson was read by close Bush aide Karen Hughes.
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Nutty fundamentalist? Believe it or not, many people like a candidate who is open about his faith.
I don't think verte meant that nobody wants a president who's open about their faith. Keep in mind, she is Catholic. She's talked about her own faith many times in here, so I highly doubt she has a problem with a presidential candidate being open about theirs. Nobody here has a problem with somebody being religious and being open about their religion.

But when you hear things like that bit deep just posted, and when Bush, or any other politician can't seem to separate their personal religious beliefs from their policy making, yeah, there's a problem.

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Case in point, Huckabee's rising numbers and the two victories by W.
Bush may have won both times based on that, but his popularity is quite low now. And this recent hoopla with Huckabee's statements may hurt him a bit.

I just want to know exactly how Huckabee would've worded his statement differently? Would he have changed it to make it sound better and not so ignorant, or would he have used different words, only to have the message remain the same?

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EVERYONE IS FINE WITH PEOPLE HAVING RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND BEING OPEN ABOUT THEM.

There.
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All I'm saying is I'm giving Huckabee the benefit of the doubt.
This may turn out to be huge mistake on your part.
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Huckabee has quite an opportunity here to denounce what he has said in the past and embrace all of God's children. go for it, Huck! repent!

[q] Huckabee's 1992 words get new attention

By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 3 minutes ago

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - The U.S. shouldn't try to kill Saddam Hussein in Iraq, Mike Huckabee declared when he first ran for office. No women in combat anywhere. No gays in the military. No contributions in politics to candidates more than a year before an election.

His statements are among 229 answers Huckabee offered as a 36-year-old Texarkana pastor during his first run for political office in 1992. In that unsuccessful race against Sen. Dale Bumpers, Huckabee offered himself as a social conservative and listed "moral decay" as one of the top problems facing the country.

Now that he's a front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, he's being asked anew about some of the views and comments he expressed in the survey by The Associated Press. Over the weekend, he said he wouldn't retract answers in which he advocated isolating AIDS patients from the general public, opposed increased funding for finding a cure and said homosexuality could pose a public health risk — though he said today he might phrase his answers "a little differently."

Some of the words in his answers to the questionnaire are indeed strong.

Asked about gays in the military, for example, he didn't just reject the idea but added: "I believe to try to legitimize that which is inherently illegitimate would be a disgraceful act of government. I feel homosexuality is an aberrant, unnatural and sinful lifestyle, and we now know it can pose a dangerous public health risk."

Earlier this year, Huckabee said, "Nobody's going to find some YouTube moments of me saying something radically different than what I'm saying today."

The full questionnaire offers in written form a chance for voters to see what he was saying as he bagan his political career.

In the questionnaire, he:

• Called for the elimination of political action committees and campaign contributions from lobbyists. He also said candidates should not be allowed to receive contributions until one year before an election and said there should be limits on the amount of out-of-state money they could accept.

As Arkansas governor, Huckabee formed a political action committee based in Virginia to raise money for non-federal candidates that allowed him to travel and raise his profile for a potential presidential run. The Hope for America PAC shut down earlier this year as Huckabee entered the White House race.

• Said he would not support any tax increases if elected to the Senate. Huckabee's record of raising some taxes as Arkansas' governor has drawn fire from fiscal conservatives in the presidential race.

• When asked whether the U.S. should take any action to kill Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, Huckabee replied: "The U.S. should not kill Saddam Hussein or anyone else." The U.S. military captured Saddam, an Iraqi court convicted him and he was hanged last December.

Rejected the idea of women in combat "because of my strong traditional view that women should be treated with respect and dignity and not subject to the kinds of abuses that could occur in combat."

• Said living together out of wedlock "is demeaning to the highest expression of human love and commitment. I reject it as an alternate lifestyle, because it robs people of the highest possible relationship one can experience: marriage."

• Said he believed no one has a constitutional right to an abortion and supported requiring minors to obtain parental consent. Huckabee also said he supported requiring doctors to discuss abortion alternatives and a waiting period.

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What a discusting individual...
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What a discusting individual...


Tony Perkins can't stand your bigotry towards Christians:

[q]This morning, for example, the lead story on Drudge was a 1998 article from the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reporting on a speech that Huckabee gave at the annual meeting of the Southern Baptists calling on the church to wake up following a rash of school shootings. The Drudge headline touted, "Take this nation back for Christ," a subtle but clear warning to secular elites. Columnist Richard Cohen wasn't as subtle last week when he said Huckabee is climbing in the polls because of "his obdurate and narrow-minded religious beliefs."

There is clearly a reverse religious standard being applied to Mike Huckabee, a standard that says there will be no defining religious beliefs. I would hope the other candidates, including the Democrats, would clearly and absolutely denounce this reverse religious test and keep the media from going further down this path. If not, I predict that bible-believing Christians will step over policy differences they have with Mike Huckabee to stand by and support a candidate who is being attacked because he believes, as they do, that their Christian faith should actually impact the way they live. If that happens, the recent meteoric rise of the Huckabee campaign in the polls could look minuscule compared to the tsunami of support that he will get from Christians who are tired of the elites who belittle their beliefs and attempt to rob them of every public reflection of their faith.

http://www.frcaction.org/get.cfm?i=WA07L03#WA07L03

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• Rejected the idea of women in combat "because of my strong traditional view that women should be treated with respect and dignity and not subject to the kinds of abuses that could occur in combat."
Soooooooo...logic would dictate that we punish those who commit said abuses and let women who are perfectly capable of serving their country do so, right? Women can serve in the military and still be treated with respect and dignity-hell, they BETTER be. Everyone in the military should be treated the same, no matter who they are. One would think that'd be kind of a "Duh!".

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• Said living together out of wedlock "is demeaning to the highest expression of human love and commitment. I reject it as an alternate lifestyle, because it robs people of the highest possible relationship one can experience: marriage."
Here's a thought, Huckabee-whether or not two people live together before or after they're married is none of your damn business.

And as for the homosexuality thing...all I have to say to that is this: .

Yeah, this is somebody I really want in the White House next year .

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I laugh at anyone who votes for this ass.
After more of his thoughts have come out ... I tend to agree with this.
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Here's a thought, Huckabee-whether or not two people live together before or after they're married is none of your damn business.


and here's the thing.

Huckabee wants to make it the business of the government to encourage, or discourage, you to live together with someone before you get married. Huck, and even GWB, probably Romney, and certainly someone like Santorum, say that we all have an interest in how you live. the would say that marriage benefits everyone, therefore, the government has an interest in encouraging you to get married. they would say that divorce harms everyone, therefore they would offer incentives to discourage you from divorcing. they might say that certain sex acts are better than others, so they're going to encourage missionary style rather than woman-on-top.

but it's all okay, see, because we shouldn't remove religion and common moral values from the public arena. it is in our interests to know who you sleep with, and how, and why, and what we as a society can do to help encourage you to make better choices so that how, where, and with whom you have sex falls in line with our shared values. it is the government's job to peer into bedrooms. we have no right to privacy.

for this is Theo-Democracy. and how dare anyone try to use someone's religion against them and prevent them from it's free expression. for if the free expression of my religion is to clear my world of gay people, and further to stop any anal sex having anywhere, then to impede me from impeding you is to violate my Constitutional rights.
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Tooooooooo true, Irvine. Never mind the fact that many of the people that are so deadset on regulating that sort of thing have their own skeletons in their closet, and have probably done things that have gone against their religion (all you have to do is look at the recent sex scandals in the press-it happens)...but if we called them out on it they'd plead for privacy and tell us to leave them alone. So we have to mind our own business in regards to them, but they can have free reign on everyone else?

And it's ironic that they're so deadset against divorce, too-so, they'd rather people who are deeply unhappy with each other be forced to live together, leading to more resent, bitterness, and sometimes possibly even violent actions instead of break up and move on to find happier lives with others? How does that do anything for the "sanctity of marriage"?

The bottom line is this: so long as premarital sex and living together before marriage and things of that nature are between consenting adults, it is absolutely NOBODY ELSE'S BUSINESS. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Neither is homosexuality. There is nothing wrong with it whatsoever, they're just as capable of love and commitment as anyone else, they're just like everybody else in every way except that who they love is different. That is not a crime. And it is none of your concern. So worry about your own lives and leave theirs alone, 'kay?

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[So worry about your own lives and leave theirs alone, 'kay?
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they're not concerned with your life.

they're concerned with your soul.
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they're not concerned with your life.

they're concerned with your soul.
They can stop worrying about that, too. My soul is just fine.

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Why is the word "sinful" even entering into discussion of governmental powers????????

What the fuck has happened to our country where this is tolerated???
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