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Old 12-12-2007, 11:38 PM   #136
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Yes. And he still sounds like Kermit.
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But the fact that he won that debate shows how truly reactionary the GOP has become.
I agree.
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Huckabee defends women's rights record

By ANDREW DeMILLO, Associated Press Writer 39 minutes ago

Republican Mike Huckabee's record on women's rights is coming under increased scrutiny, including his endorsement of the Southern Baptist Convention's stance that women should "submit graciously" to their husbands and his opposition to sending women into combat.

Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, defended his record Thursday, saying he appointed many women to high positions in state government and on his staff during his 10 1/2 years as Arkansas governor.

"If you look at my cabinet, I had more women in my cabinet and on my staff in key positions, including chief of staff, than any other governor probably in Arkansas history," Huckabee said on ABC's "Good Morning America."

Huckabee had been asked on the TV show about his support of the Baptist convention's statement of beliefs on marriage. The former Arkansas governor and his wife Janet signed a full-page ad in USA Today in support of the statement with 129 other evangelical leaders in 1998.

"A wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ," the convention says in its statement of faith. Baptist Press reported that the 1998 ad was addressed to denomination leaders and said: "You are right because you called wives to graciously submit to their husband's sacrificial leadership."

Huckabee was supported by 17 percent of women in a nationwide AP-Ipsos poll earlier this month, making him roughly even with Rudy Giuliani and John McCain for the lead among female voters among GOP presidential contenders.

Huckabee has faced questions before over his support of the marriage statement, with a rival in his 1998 re-election campaign citing the statement and accusing Huckabee of opposing equal pay for women.

"It's one thing for Mike Huckabee to think a wife should submit graciously to her husband, but it's another to have her work for less than she's worth," Democratic challenger Bill Bristow said in a 1998 ad.

Huckabee's campaign then cried foul and accused Bristow of taking a swipe at Southern Baptists.

In 1992, when Huckabee was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, he said in a 229-question survey submitted by The Associated Press that he opposed placing women in combat roles in the military "because of my strong traditional view that women should be treated with respect and dignity and not subject to the kinds of abuses that could occur in combat."

However, Huckabee's traditional view of women apparently doesn't extend to the political arena.

In the same survey, Huckabee was asked about the number of women serving in the House and Senate. He wrote: "I really cannot say whether or not the presence of so few women has made any difference in Congress, but women are certainly as capable as men of serving in the Senate."

That view also extends to the White House. Huckabee said Thursday in the ABC interview that he fully expects a woman will be elected to lead the country someday — he just hopes it won't be next year since he wants the job.

"Will there be a female president? Of course there will. And should there be? Absolutely," Huckabee said.
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Are some of his best friends women?
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Only if they submit graciously
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Old 12-13-2007, 02:34 PM   #142
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I think Senator Obama is the coolest candidate-his life story is absolutely cool. Any guy with a wife like he has is cool too, and the type of father he seems to be is very cool as well. Plus he had a swimsuit picture in People.
I like Obama. I think he's a compelling guy, and despite the fact that his platform seems a little shaky (what I know for sure is that he's an anti-war candidate, but beyond that, it's a little murky), he seems to bring a truly fresh voice to the table. The one question I have about him is his lack of experience; I'm concerned that Congress may not take him seriously, even if he gets a major majority vote, which may be a dubious goal.

But the real question is, does anyone know if he plays an instrument? Maybe a ukelele or a xylophone or something? Because THAT would be truly cool.
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Well apparently Congress is too busy with their own juvenile issues, maybe they wouldn't even know who the new President is.

I don't know if Sen Obama plays an instrument. He danced, if you can call it that, to Beyonce on Ellen. He played basketball in high school, I saw some video online of that. Is that good enough?
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I like Obama. I think he's a compelling guy, and despite the fact that his platform seems a little shaky (what I know for sure is that he's an anti-war candidate, but beyond that, it's a little murky), he seems to bring a truly fresh voice to the table. The one question I have about him is his lack of experience; I'm concerned that Congress may not take him seriously, even if he gets a major majority vote, which may be a dubious goal.


i generally agree, and i'm thinking these days that judgment trumps experience.

not many had more experience than Cheney and Rumsfeld, and look what that got us into.

go Obama.
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and just a reminder to all candidates, THIS is what happens when you seek a world without gays:



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I'm concerned that Congress may not take him seriously, even if he gets a major majority vote, which may be a dubious goal.

Why did they have any reason to take Bush seriously? He was a horrible governer and ruined every business he ran.
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and just a reminder to all candidates, THIS is what happens when you seek a world without gays:



Oh crap. I'm literally choking on my candy cane now.
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and just a reminder to all candidates, THIS is what happens when you seek a world without gays:



It pains me to have to quote this picture again, but, holy mother.
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What I don't get is how this guy can be pro-death penalty when he claims to be such a strong follower of Jesus and Christianity.

From the YouTube debates:

Tyler Overman: Hi. This is Tyler Overman from Memphis, Tennessee. And I have a quick question for those of you who would call yourselves Christian conservatives. The death penalty, what would Jesus do?

Huckabee:

"....I believe there is a place for a death penalty. Some crimes are so heinous, so horrible that the only response that we, as a civilized nation, have for a most uncivil action is not only to try to deter that person from ever committing that crime again, but also as a warning to others that some crimes truly are beyond any other capacity for us to fix."




That makes no sense. If he is such a religious Christian, he should know that it is only God's decision to take a person's life, not the governments.

Mike Huckabee: What a hypocrite, fool, joke, monster, disgrace, and bag of shit.
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Mike Huckabee: What a hypocrite, fool, joke, monster, disgrace, and bag of shit.


i think the governor is wrong, painfully wrong, on many things, but isn't this going a bit far?
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