financeguy said:
Secondly, no true artist would accept this type of award as it clearly could be deemed to prejudice their independence.
BonoVoxSupastar said:That's BS! No one can judge who or what makes a true artist.
financeguy said:
It's an awful pity he has now flushed the remnants of his artistic integrity down the toilet.
financeguy said:
It's an awful pity he has now flushed the remnants of his artistic integrity down the toilet.
financeguy said:
Ok, I might have overstated it slightly. What I meant is that artists who chose to accept these types of awards run a serious risk that their independence will be compromised.
No-one can deny the man has - or at least had - plenty of talent as an artist. His talent is all too evident. It's an awful pity he has now flushed the remnants of his artistic integrity down the toilet.
financeguy said:Firstly, no Irish person should accept such an award from a British Queen
Dreadsox said:Maybe it does not mean to some of us what it might mean to the Irish or the Scottish, or any other group that is being ruled by Britain.
Vincent Vega said:He is Irish himself, isn't he?
As Bob Geldof is.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/819490.stm
And Sean Connery is very active in fighting for Scottish independency.
Vincent Vega said:I mean that for example accepting the knighthood in the case of Sean Connery didn't mean in any way that he became less a fighter for Scottish independence.
So one can accept knighthood and still not enjoy the Queen being the head of his state.
In the case of Bono, I don't see the connection between his artistic independence and the knighthood, sorry.
And, no, I know, Ireland doesn't have the Queen as the head of the state
financeguy said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Zephaniah
"In November 2003, Zephaniah wrote in The Guardian [1] that he was turning down the invitation to accept the honour of the position of Officer of the Order of British Empire (OBE) award from Queen Elizabeth II since it reminded him of 'thousands of years of brutality, it reminds me of how my foremothers were raped and my forefathers brutalized'. He continued to say 'Stick it, Mr. Blair and Mrs. Queen, stop going on about empire.' It was unusual to do so publicly, since the convention for rejecting the award is to do so privately. He said that he had nothing against the Queen personally, and that 'She's a bit stiff, but a nice old lady.'"
BonoVoxSupastar said:So his guesture is about as empty and meaningless as the title itself.
financeguy said:
If these titles are so empty and meaningless, then maybe you'd explain to me why most of the British press carried the story on their front pages.
LJT said:
There haven't been the same sort of injustices carried out in the name of the queen in Scotland in the past 100 years as there has been in Ireland, and some injustices are far too recent here to just forget about as some people seemed to suggest in other threads.
Honestly not sure how to take Bono accepting the honorary knighthood, personally I wouldn't have taken it....and I really don't see how it lends him any more political weight than he already has.