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Old 01-11-2002, 09:59 PM   #31
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Topics such as the "Gay voice" thread should NOT be off-limits in a forum known as :Free Your Mind." These days we are supposed to be "open-minded" about sexuality issues, and, yes, it is even okay to question elements of any sexual lifestyle and discuss them. TheU2 can only hope to resolve his stereotypical views by exploring the basis of them. Those of you who attacked him (and I do not include any mods in this grouping), answer me, would you have come to my defense had someone asked a stereotypical question of the Southern accent? Would you have come to the defense of 80sU2IsBest if someone had stereotyped fundamentalist Protestants? TheU2 didn't even say anything AGAINST homosexuality in general

I admit that TheU2 posted the topic in his typical sarcastic tone. I had a conversation with him awhile back after he asked me why I do not include him in the "weirdo" classification as I do other members of the web-based community known as www.interference.com and I told him that he is not a weirdo but instead a freak, much like something at a carnival sideshow. He cannot HELP his tone, or style of prose, I truly believe. On the other hand, a "weirdo" can tone down his weirdness simply by not using nouns incorrectly as adjectives and prefixes.

TheU2 does not fear controversy; that can be a good thing, especially in a debate-oriented forum such as Free Your Mind. Perhaps though the freak went too far in pushing Sicilia's buttons, and this, as opposed to the subject matter being explored, discussed and debated, is where it went downhill. I seriously doubt TheU2's feelings were hurt by any names that Sicilia called him.

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Old 01-11-2002, 10:01 PM   #32
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You dont know the history between me and TheU2. And you obviously dont follow his posts. I agree I have a difficult time surpressing whats really on my mind, but he was the so called straw that broke my back in that thread. I'm not going to go into detail, but TheU2 doesnt respect the mods and the majority of his posts are purposely posted to get a stir out of people.

Anyway, I apologize to him and anyone else that was offended by my comment, it was posted out of anger.

History? I thought we were kinda cool....Sometimes my posts get closed, but I've always "lightened" my threads when you requested.

Follow my posts, they are pretty funny I think.

I respect all you mods out there.

No need to apologize, but i'll accept it anyway as proper courtesy. I don't get easily offended. Except sometimes when people bash the USA, but that's another story.

I do, however, apologize if my straw broke your back.

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i agree with what melon said about theu2 getting a new moniker. you blatantly post in a style that does not have any tact. i dont really care, but i know others do. you like to ride the fence by the way you act, particularly to me, and when someone finally tells you to smarten up you act like "what???? i didnt do anything! its not me its you!" perhaps acceptable for a child before theyre about to be punished rediculously hard for it, but i believe you should be above a 7 year olds mentality.

but i should say all of this has been handled way better than it used to be...

perhaps humans ARE progressing....

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I admit that TheU2 posted the topic in his typical sarcastic tone. I had a conversation with him awhile back after he asked me why I do not include him in the "weirdo" classification as I do other members of the web-based community known as www.interference.com and I told him that he is not a weirdo but instead a freak, much like something at a carnival sideshow. He cannot HELP his tone, or style of prose, I truly believe. On the other hand, a "weirdo" can tone down his weirdness simply by not using nouns incorrectly as adjectives and prefixes.

TheU2 does not fear controversy; that can be a good thing, especially in a debate-oriented forum such as Free Your Mind. Perhaps though the freak went too far in pushing Sicilia's buttons, and this, as opposed to the subject matter being explored, discussed and debated, is where it went downhill. I seriously doubt TheU2's feelings were hurt by any names that Sicilia called him.

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There was no sarcasm in that thread. Can I not be serious sometimes? I'm a freakin CPA for god's sake.

Bama, you're logic of freak and weirdo is a bit flawed as I can control my tone and style of writing. That thread wasn't written in such a "freak" tone or style.

You're right, I don't fear controversy. I think it adds some spice to the forum. Maybe too much spice. Thats when the mods do come in and that's fine. It was not my intention to create any controversy there, though. In fact, I thought it was a much more tame thread than others that have transpired.

Apparently, Sicy's button was the size of giants stadium and I pushed it a couple of times. I apologize for that.

And you are right, my feelings aren't hurt. I'm not the sensitve type.

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Old 01-11-2002, 10:21 PM   #35
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I guess that is what I am getting at, TheCK; you often post in a sarcastic tone in non-serious threads; therefore, on the rare occasion when we see you post a thread that is indeed to be serious, that sarcasm is what people first see, much like melon pointed out.

Perhaps you CAN control your tone and style of writing, but you cannot control how people interpret it.

I stand by my generalization of you as a freak. Evidence indicative of such status is seen in your weird "eyelids" photo and your "I Save My Farts For When People Enter The Room" thread.

I believe you didn't intend controversy in this one, but you are still a freak.

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I guess that is what I am getting at, TheCK; you often post in a sarcastic tone in non-serious threads; therefore, on the rare occasion when we see you post a thread that is indeed to be serious, that sarcasm is what people first see, much like melon pointed out.

Perhaps you CAN control your tone and style of writing, but you cannot control how people interpret it.

I stand by my generalization of you as a freak. Evidence indicative of such status is seen in your weird "eyelids" photo and your "I Save My Farts For When People Enter The Room" thread.

I believe you didn't intend controversy in this one, but you are still a freak.

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Bama -

[sarcasm]I love you[/sarcasm].

I appreciate the freak remark....

When is the post jan. 6th thread starting up. [satire]I believe I'm up for a few more awards now.[/satire]

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Oh dear. Sometimes ppl tend to forget that the mods are just like us, only with certain abilities to control this board. To blame the mods for the closure of threads is stupid. Of course they do the actual closure, but im guessing based on the general direction a topic heads in and of course their own judgemnt. To have all the purest intentions also doesnt give free license to post what ever someone feels like -try applying the rules of real life to here. Its no point to say "I meant no offence", if overall, there was anyone uncomfortable or taken offside with something. Sometimes I wonder why Elvis bothers with this site, all the shit that people can go on about and all the issues he has to deal with, like all the others here who mod, but then I think to myself, hang on, Elvis and co are more likely ignoring the fact that 3% of this place causes shit, and are more concentratig on the 97% that is really a lot of fun. No one is ging to mod better or worse than anyone else.



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What on EARTH is the problem with asking whether or not a homosexual person is born with a "gay voice"? I'm sorry, in the question itself there is nothing offensive, what is offensive is someone finding such a ridiculously dumb question (sorry TheU2)as such. I mean, I was completely astonished to find people find such a question as 'offensive', and that, more often than not, denotes self-importance and self-promotion. For God's sake, it was just a question - and a silly one at that, but no more silly than some topics that get a posting here.

Having said that, TheU2, you have to admit it was one stupid question. How on EARTH do you think that gay people have a 'gay voice'. Why not go further and ask if they have a 'gay walk'? Ofcourse not! There are plenty of gay people who are more 'manly' (I hate that term) than I will ever be, and there are some who are so 'straight-acting' (hence the expression, straight-acting gay people)you'd think they were a red-blooded straigt male, like one of my best friends, for instance.

Also, I don't think that homosexuality is something inherent, I think its more to do with the circumstances of life that have shaped you as 'a person', its not something you are born with.

I don't actually think the mods were justified in getting rid of TheU2's "Gay Voice" thread, if they wanted to be helpful they should have removed other threads going back ages ago when people weren't talking about the 'gay voice' but questioning whether or not homosexuality was wrong - now THAT is stupid.

For goodness sakes, what's the big deal?

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Is there a guide somewhere that addresses what kind of topics/discussions are unacceptable around here (Feedback as a whole, not just FYM), and what leads to "banishment" or closing of threads?

Miss Spirality,

Just for education's sake, I think these are a few topics that could get you banned...NOTE.. I'm not saying I would ban you or anyone for these, But just Trying to get this question .. this SINCERE one apparently, so we all know what will get us the Big Fat boot.. Posters, I'm not necessarily posting these, more just adding to the thread some things that may be cause to get you banned.

-Any post with the words 'nigger', 'chink', 'kike', 'cracker', or 'polak'.

-Any post that calls for a reincarnation of the 'REAL KKK', complete with threats to the minority races in the free world, Though apparently their latest agenda issue.. 'Any Movie with Jennifer Aniston in it is Bad', is gaining momentum in the free enterprise.


-Any post that directly references the stereotypes of 'Dirty Hispanics', 'Drunk Irishmen', 'Well Hung Blackmen', 'Greasers', or 'Mushroom Bruising Faggots'.

Just due to the fact that there is no real policy except a loose little ditty, I just figured I'd try and give people an idea, or some ideas for the mods to reply to and let us know various sorts of things that would or would not be 'Stars in Salome's Eyes', I know I'm not a mod in here, but The rest of the other posters have chimed in.

TheU2, I'm sorry I didn't get to know you.

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TheU2, I'm sorry I didn't get to know you.

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... being a mod is not very easy, though most people seem to think it is.
The "world of moderating" on Interference has always seemed kind of interesting to me (how it's done, etc., yeah I'm weird, so sue me), but I think overall you guys do a helluva job around here...

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Ah, my dear Salome.. I expected more from you, that's a cheap way to make a point.. I purposely put that in to see if someone would take up on that inclusion, and sadly, without using much ingenius creativity you took the bait.. No matter though.. Anyways, Are you saying that I'm Wrong.. in suggesting that Using such vulgar phrases would be out of line.. Translation for those under the influence.. That It IS OK to use such slang and prejudiced terms in posts in a free and liberous manner?... Again, I'm not spitting any specific feelings or beliefs on my part, Just throwing out things to help get the question answered that this thread initially posed.

Correct yourself please, unless that is what you wanted to say...

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I personally think that little short of child pornograghy should be cause for locking a thread. Let the people who get their feelings hurt defend themselves, not be "protected" by thread closings. If somebody uses the word "nigger" let 500 posters yell at them instead of locking the thread. If a gay person with a lisp was offended, let them speak up. What's the big deal?

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