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Old 01-11-2002, 06:21 PM   #16
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It's not the flaming that bothers me. It's the censorship, or worse, the threats of censorship.

I guess I just like to kick against the goads.
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Old 01-11-2002, 06:30 PM   #17
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Hey Sicy, I'm definitely not trying to pass judgement on you. I think you at Interference.com without question have the right to delete any message for any or no reason. I'm getting to use this site for free. I'm mighty appreciative of that. And I realize that being a mod probably can be a big headache. I hope you don't feel the need to try to check every thread. I guess I'm just for moderation in moderating.

U2's a decent band, eh?

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Old 01-11-2002, 06:31 PM   #18
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*sigh*

I really love getting involved in these debates. not.

Like Sicy said, its not easy being a mod. Let me make clear that the mods and admins of this board do so on THEIR OWN TIME. They try to do the best to keep everyone happy, if it means closing a thread - so be it. This is a community, online or offline, it IS a community. The integrity of the community must be maintained.

If CK were to walk into a public place in certain places and ask the question he did, he may be attacked, in other places he may be cheered, or laughed at. I really don't want either to happen in this community. The thread consisted of a stereotypical question which IMHO had no place in this forum.

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Old 01-11-2002, 07:10 PM   #19
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I love being a mod
I always felt this forum was overly messy at times and now I'm finally in a position to do something about it
and when things get too bad I have acted + will act on it

I know not everyone will agree with my actions (probably neither my posts as a member of Interference nor the actions I take as a mod will go down well with everyone) and that's okay
lately it seems a bit though that whatever you do as a mod always someone will complain (not referring to this thread, just something I have noticed the last few weeks) - or you close too many threads or not enough threads or the wrong threads or you just suck in general - and they never adress you personally by mail (which can be found quite easily on top of the page)

good thing I never liked any of you anyway

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Salome, I have noticed that, in general, you suck. Let's fight.
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Old 01-11-2002, 08:12 PM   #21
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I like our mods a lot--I always enjoy their posts and find them to be quite likable people, so this isn't personal in the least. Salome, in fact, is my forum crush. However, I have to say I have never seen threads get shut down so quickly and, moreover, so frequently on any forum as this one. I really don't understand it at all. I was following the discussion about the gay voice with great, sincere interest and was very surprised when it was shut down. Nothing inappropriate or offensive about it in the least. In fact, on another fan forum I frequent that has a large gay population, that very subject has been discussed a lot and the gay community was not in the least bit offended by it. They were just as curious about the phenomenon as the rest of us.

Of course our mods can do as they think best, and on one level I appreciate that they are very sensitive people. Perhaps this forum is just too conservative for me, which I find odd given that U2 is a very liberal, way out there bunch of guys, a band with some ideas that might be considered pretty radical in some ways. But to each her own.

On this other forum I mentioned, I don't even remember a time when a thread was closed--maybe once or twice in the 5 years I've been over there. Free speech and healthy debates rule. It gets ugly sometimes and the mods will come in and say, "I don't like this one bit and I have my eye on it, but carry on. Just don't kill each other." And please don't anyone tell me "well, if you like that forum so much, why don't you just stay there." That's not what I'm trying to say at all. I just don't understand why people are so easily offended by sensitive issues that are healthy when openly discussed. People get mad, get hurt, they pout, they deal with it. I guess I'd like to think that the forum mimics real life--you talk things through, work things out. If people think a thread topic is inappropriate, how about a healthy debate about why it's inappropriate instead of shutting it down. To me, locking a thread is the equivalent of someone hanging up the phone on me, or slamming the door in my face when all I want to do is talk about it.

Frankly, the only offensive thing I found about the gay voice thread was when Sicy called TheU2 a fucking ass and threatened to banish him, which I thought was really inappropriate. No offense, Sicy--I just strongly disagreed with you there.

Just my two cents--thanks to anyone who actually read all this.

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Old 01-11-2002, 08:21 PM   #22
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Terrific post, joyfulgirl. That is EXACTLY the type of healthy atmosphere I think should be emulated at Interference.
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Frankly, the only offensive thing I found about the gay voice thread was when Sicy called TheU2 a fucking ass and threatened to banish him, which I thought was really inappropriate. No offense, Sicy--I just strongly disagreed with you there.

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. I think Sicy handled the situation the best she could given the circumstances.

Our mods do a great job. Their actions shouldn't be questioned like this.

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Our mods do a great job. Their actions shouldn't be questioned like this.
Shouldn't be questioned?! Isn't this forum entitled "Free Your Mind" and not "Shut Up and Obey"? I did not say our mods don't do a great job. In fact, I began the post by commenting on how much I like them, and I wasn't just being obsequious. They rock. But come on, our mods are adults--they should be able to handle some constructive criticism. Let it be known that I dig Sicy to death. But are you REALLY saying we shouldn't state when we disagree with the actions of our mods? I don't live my life like that. If I disagree with my boss, I respectfully say so, and they respect me for it.

It has been said that the reason that thread was shut down was because TheU2 doesn't have a great reputation on the boards. Well, I don't know anything about that, I don't know his reputation, so therefore maybe I was kind of reading it with more objectivity than those who already had some feelings about him. But to me, he seemed very respectful. Sorry, I just didn't get it.

I know it isn't easy being a mod, and it must be tough listening to everyone whine and disagree about their decisions. But we shouldn't have to walk on eggshells around here. It ain't in good U2 style.

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You dont know the history between me and TheU2. And you obviously dont follow his posts. I agree I have a difficult time surpressing whats really on my mind, but he was the so called straw that broke my back in that thread. I'm not going to go into detail, but TheU2 doesnt respect the mods and the majority of his posts are purposely posted to get a stir out of people.

Anyway, I apologize to him and anyone else that was offended by my comment, it was posted out of anger.

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joyfulgirl,

I'm not denying one's right to speak his/her mind. But the amount of criticism our mods took today was unnacceptable. I think we as members owe them better treatment than what they got today. They do a lot of good for this forum that most of the time goes unnoticed.

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I'm not denying one's right to speak his/her mind. But the amount of criticism our mods took today was unnacceptable. I think we as members owe them better treatment than what they got today. They do a lot of good for this forum that most of the time goes unnoticed.

Fair enough--I am not aware that they received an unusual amount of criticism today. I was just responding to the one incident.
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You dont know the history between me and TheU2. And you obviously dont follow his posts.

Anyway, I apologize to him and anyone else that was offended by my comment, it was posted out of anger.


True, I don't know the history. And as I said, I'm not aware of his reputation. Sorry you had a rough day in here.
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Fair enough--I am not aware that they received an unusual amount of criticism today. I was just responding to the one incident.
Just so you know, I wasn't trying to come down on you. You've actually been the most diplomatic out of anyone today. LOL. I guess your last post just triggered me to say what I did.

All is cool and I'm outta this thread.

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Just so you know, I wasn't trying to come down on you. You've actually been the most diplomatic out of anyone today. LOL. I guess your last post just triggered me to say what I did.

All is cool and I'm outta this thread.

S'okay--I can dish it out and take it.

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