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Old 11-03-2004, 03:16 AM   #16
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maybe, but I fear that it's deeper than that. I fear that there is an incredible polarization, and that if he wins the popular vote by a good margin that it will mean there are people out there in big numbers who think he's pretty lousy but who sooo disagree with those who supported kerry on things like gay marriage, stem cell research, separation of church and state etc that we're talking about very very deep divides. It goes beyond cronies. It's as if even those voting for bush are willing to believe he's looking out for cronies and big oil and whomever, are willing to look past trashing the environment, are willing to look past convenient misinterpretation of intelligence, lack of it, all of this...
for the sake of something bigger. I hope that's not what the pundits tell me tomorrow but I worry that it is...
Yeah. I like that. It radicalizes politics. Brings it back to the man on the streets.

Sure it´s gonna hurt. What did ya think? We can just hope there is no violence involved.

But it´s better than silent sheep mass idiocy. Americans care so much about politics right now that they were and will be on the streets. That´s fine. Political action is not a chocolate cake.
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I think the message being broadcast to people all over the world by religious people all over America is that we, the religious people of the world are up for and ready for a fight. We are willing to stand up for what we believe in, and our God.

Really, when it all comes down to it, all this fight in America, between America and Europe, between the Middle East and America comes down to religion. That's the way it is. America isn't a religious country for no reason. God knew what he was doing.
Ready to fight heh?

No offense intended, but from my personal Catholic view: Shame on you and your misled religious ideals. You are not following the teachings of Jesus Christ. Jesus condemned fighting.

It is sad to see this "religious freedom fighter" emotions. I wonder when you´ll start burning the flags. It´s only a matter of time.

But like I said above, that´s better than sheep mass idiocy.
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Agreed HipHop, one need not fight for the purpose of fighting, or make enemies of former allies, or create a divine authority to rule - the "religious freedom fighter" is motivated by the same feelings as those who seek wholesale destruction of all that we hold dear.

No more angry christian nation - more dedication to the protection of human rights and liberty the world over through all available avenues.
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Silver lining?

Only 1455 more days to go.
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Old 11-03-2004, 04:37 AM   #20
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Thats the spirit

Buy calenders now, you can start crossing out the days.

Hmm but since Bush wasn't really elected in 2000 he should be able to run in 2008
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I'm not feeling like there's much of a silver lining today, except for the fact that it's still safe to be gay in PA.
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Silver lining . . .


At least Florida's not the nation's punchline this time, you go Ohio!




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and we modified our 3 strikes law
so people will not get a life sentence for stealing a pizza.
66 Passed?

The one thing that reduced crime in this state over the last 10 years.

Watch the crime rate go up and wonder why it happened.....
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Well, as of the date and time of this post, 66 is losing.

Last thing we need are more criminals back on the streets.
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Silver lining . . .


At least Florida's not the nation's punchline this time, you go Ohio!



Hey now....
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I voted for Kerry today, but I'm glad Bush is probably going to win. I hope he does. I think my vote was turned around again today because I really compared the two guys and I just do not like John Kerry. I can't warm to him. Bush definitely has the values this very conservative country looks for. Period. Other western countries can't understand a very conservative and becoming more conservative, religious country. Like they said on one of the stations tonight, the U.S. is more like Saudi Arabia, etc., then other western countries when it comes to conservatism and religion, which to me is quite a compliment, BEING a conservative, religious American.

I think, bottom-line, like everything else in this world, and especially in America, it all comes down to religion, and yes, how closely tied it is to politics here - which other western societies just don't understand. That's really why they have such a hard time with Bush and about how Bush can get reelected.

Basically they are saying this election was decided by religious people who go to church at least once a week. I agree.

I don't even think the states on the fringes of the country that went democratic can understand the center of the country (which is part of their problem).

So, is there a big silver lining for me. I certainly hope so, being a conservative, religious American. I think that somehow this is a good thing that Bush gets reelected. Something to do with religion. Sure, it'll be hard for the American people in the Middle East. But, I think the Americans wanted that, are up for the task. I think Americans are great people. Amazing. Like Fidel Castro once said about us, Americans are "noble people." I think the message being broadcast to people all over the world by religious people all over America is that we, the religious people of the world are up for and ready for a fight. We are willing to stand up for what we believe in, and our God.

Really, when it all comes down to it, all this fight in America, between America and Europe, between the Middle East and America comes down to religion. That's the way it is. America isn't a religious country for no reason. God knew what he was doing.
It sounds like you're very confused. Yes America is growing increasingly conservative a trend that when history proves itself is dangerous.

I don't think you could be anymore wrong. I've been a Christian all my life and Bush couldn't be any farther from my values.
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The only "silver lining" I can think of right now is that Bush can never run again

I look forward to his retirement

At least the Red Sox still won the World Series..the Republicans can't do anything about that, can they?
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I've been a Christian all my life as well and he doesn't represent my values either.

I think we need to be careful in making generalizations like that.
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If Kerry loses, could this be one reason?

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...pcworld/118431

Me thinks it could be one good possibility.

Maybe you oughta, you know, actually read the articles you post:

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Reports of problems were evenly spread across states leaning toward Democratic challenger John Kerry (news - web sites) or toward Republican President George Bush (news - web sites), as well as in states that could go either way, Doherty said from Arlington, Virginia, where Verified Voting set up an "election protection nerve center" that had fielded more than 50,000 calls by midday Tuesday.
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It sounds like you're very confused. Yes America is growing increasingly conservative a trend that when history proves itself is dangerous.

I don't think you could be anymore wrong. I've been a Christian all my life and Bush couldn't be any farther from my values.
Eh. No one really measures up to my values, either. So, I voted for Kerry.
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