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Old 08-10-2007, 12:08 PM   #16
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That's more like it...
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:52 PM   #17
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Clinton is a moderate, and even if she wasn't she doesn't represent the "left" as a whole, therefore she is not THE LEFT, as you keep saying.

Nice try. She is no moderate. She is on the left of the political spectrum. Why is that hard?
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:57 PM   #19
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Nice try. She is no moderate. She is on the left of the political spectrum. Why is that hard?
That's laughable. Clinton has compromised a lot to reach the moderate status.

Have you listened to what anyone has said in here? Have you looked at her stances?

She's as moderate as they come, learn some politics.
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She is no moderate. She is on the left of the political spectrum.

Dude, not even in the United States is she Left, much less the rest of the world.
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Have you looked at her stances?
I suggest you do. This "she's a moderate" is an act. You guys cant see that? It's a facade used to try to appear more centrist and draw in the independents. You guys cant honestly believe she's a moderate. I pray you dont.

Here you go: http://www.issues2000.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

And why are we talking about the rest of the world? They dont pick the president.
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You know what, you're probably right. In your world where dragons really existed, we have sattelite footage of WMDs, higher education = liberal, and Bibles will be replaced with copies of Inconvienent Truth in hotels she probably is left. But the rest of the world, we recognise she's a moderate.
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and Bibles will be replaced with copies of Inconvienent Truth in hotels
Still dont believe me?

http://bobmccarty.wordpress.com/2007...-at-hotel-spa/
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Still dont believe me?

http://bobmccarty.wordpress.com/2007...-at-hotel-spa/
It's one hotel that's attempting to be green certified, and both books are found in the rooms. The Bloomberg story was incorrect.
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Here you go: http://www.issues2000.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm
Dang. Hillary's looking better and better.
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Apparently we are going to need to figure out how to address her when she becomes President in about 16 months.
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Still dont believe me?

http://bobmccarty.wordpress.com/2007...-at-hotel-spa/
Which book has more creditble useful information?
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Which book has more creditble useful information?
oh no you di-int
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I suggest you do. This "she's a moderate" is an act. You guys cant see that? It's a facade used to try to appear more centrist and draw in the independents. You guys cant honestly believe she's a moderate. I pray you dont.

Here you go: http://www.issues2000.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

And why are we talking about the rest of the world? They dont pick the president.
Everyone does it - look at Mitt Romney, trying to pretend he's a conservative and not on the liberal side of moderate:




On a semi-related note, today I went from an undecided voter who felt slightly negative to ambivalent about the candidates to a slight Hillary supporter. I wish I could make you weep by saying it's thanks to you, but it's actually thanks to my boss at the NYC non profit where today is my last day, who told me over lunch about several events she attended at Hillary's office because Hillary wanted to honestly solicit input from field experts, and how smart and interested and committed Hillary was. That would mean nothing if I heard it from some online poster, but I trust my boss's assessment, so thats where I very, very tentatively stand as of 2 hours ago.
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