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Old 10-01-2001, 10:03 PM   #1
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*sigh*

I don't see a point to much of this anymore. I'm thinking of making an extended retreat into Whortense.

It's just that the serious things seem so inconsequential lately, and I really don't feel much like myself anymore.

But I'm rambling...

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Hi melon.

I just wanted to say hi mainly.

I like your posts, but you do seem a bit jaded by it all lately.

Whortense works very well tho too.

Anyway, guess its ciao now.

See ya round like a rissole melon.

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I agree melon, the normal melon we know here doesn't seem like himself.
But sometimes that can be a good thing.
The world is a scary place right now, so if you don't feel like being normal melon, i dont think normal melon should worry.

rmalbing is good for the soul, i do it all the time

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I realized what I'm doing here. I'm doing just like I did like I was in high school: I'm burying my sadness under a mile-high mound of silliness.

I often wonder if "it" ever gets any better or easier? I just don't know anymore. I'm at a point that I wish I could just give up. Even I, "the great Melon," cannot be strong forever.

Greatness, comparison, value, depth: gone, gone, gone.

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Greatness value and depth gone?
Its sad you feel that way melon.

Sounds quite normal over all though, I found that people who excel at something to the degree you do, are always seekig stimulation. But then sometimes, just lose energy and think, 'I can't be bothered anymore', beause maintaining it is such hard work.

Maybe this isn't the case with you, but I hope you find yourself again.
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I realized what I'm doing here. I'm doing just like I did like I was in high school: I'm burying my sadness under a mile-high mound of silliness.
I often wonder if "it" ever gets any better or easier? I just don't know anymore. I'm at a point that I wish I could just give up. Even I, "the great Melon," cannot be strong forever.
Greatness, comparison, value, depth: gone, gone, gone.
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Don't be sad, Melon. You say that even you "The great Melon" cannot be strong forever. That is something that you should be overjoyed to see. Once we realize how weak we are, that's when we see that the only strength we have is The Lord's strength. Embrace His strength, let Him carry you. We are all weak, Melon, until we let Him take over. Put your faith totally in Him and he will show you things you've never see before and will strengthen you.
Have you seen the Matrix? There's a lot of truth in this movie in several aspects. This world is The Matrix. People walk around, thinking that this life is all there is, concerning themselves only with the stuff of earth. But all around is an unseen war between demons and angels; they're fighting for our very souls. This spiritual war is what keeps me going a lot of times. Sometimes I just want to give up, also. But I know that when I accepted Christ as my general, I was sent to the front line of the most important war in the history of the world. Take heart, Melon, and embrace the Savior. He's got big plans for those who want to join the battle.
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I find my "uniqueness" to be the ultimate curse. I cannot relate with the whole of society anymore. And simple things like love rendered forever complex.

And I guess cannot handle it anymore. What I would give to be young and stupid again, and not have to deal with this place we call the "real world." It's too much to soak in, and I have nowhere or no one to escape into. I feel that, with as much knowledge and as much professional promise that I have, I am a failure at life.

Oh but what do any of you care about my life here? I'm just a series of characters on a page that 99.9% of you here will never have to meet. I guess, writing is the last thing that gives me comfort, and yet perhaps that is dying too...

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But all around is an unseen war between demons and angels; they're fighting for our very souls.
I see things people don't see in this world, and it is perhaps this wisdom that I have wished to share with you all all along.

I have been tortured with demons and angels alike my entire life, and perhaps the saddest idea is that they look alike and say similar things. Only it is their hearts that are different, and it is only a few who will be able to see beneath that surface.

When I was young and foolish, I wanted wisdom; the knowledge of the Universal Mind. Now that I am at my most capable to have received this knowledge, I don't want it anymore. I want to be young, stupid, and deliriously in love. I want to be ignorant of the rest of the world, wave my flag, and hate people different than me like everyone else. But I can't take this knowledge out of my mind. I hate myself for seeking what no mortal should seek.

And you probably think I'm crazy after writing this. I probably am.

BTW, if anyone's interested... [External Link]

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"He had lived through an age when men and women with energy and ruthlessness but without much ability or persistence excelled. And even though most of them had gone under, their ignorance had confused Roy, making him wonder whether the things he had striven to learn, and thought of as 'culture,' were irrelevant. Everything was supposed to be the same: commercials, Beethoven's late quartets, pop records, shopfronts, Freud, multi-coloured hair. Greatness, comparison, value, depth: gone, gone, gone. Anything could give some pleasure; he saw that. But not everything provided the sustenance of a deeper understanding." - Hanif Kureishi, Love in a Blue Time

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I see things people don't see in this world, and it is perhaps this wisdom that I have wished to share with you all all along.
I have been tortured with demons and angels alike my entire life, and perhaps the saddest idea is that they look alike and say similar things. Only it is their hearts that are different, and it is only a few who will be able to see beneath that surface.
When I was young and foolish, I wanted wisdom; the knowledge of the Universal Mind. Now that I am at my most capable to have received this knowledge, I don't want it anymore. I want to be young, stupid, and deliriously in love. I want to be ignorant of the rest of the world, wave my flag, and hate people different than me like everyone else. But I can't take this knowledge out of my mind. I hate myself for seeking what no mortal should seek.
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Melon, I know that we've disagreed on many things, but I do care about you. If I didn't, I wouldn't be writing this right now. The song "One" has a great deal of truth to it..."We're one, but we're not the same, we get to carry each other" - that is so true. Yes, each of us is "unique" to a certain extent, and some have been given more intelligence. But none of us have a monopoly on pain, loneliness and feeling out of touch with the rest of the world. We all hurt, and part of our duty is to share love with each other. You may never have a romantic love. I don't and I probably never will. That's okay with me, because I have the love of friends and family and most importantly, God. That's something we all have in common, also - the fact that God loves us. We also all have in common the fact that we're not good enough of our own accord to please God. And that's why Christ came-to pay the price we could not pay. Melon, I want to encourage you, but I also feel the need to be honest with you. The following is not a slam, Melon, but just something that appears to be true. Perhaps one of the reasons you feel unsatisfied and fulfilled is because you've set yourself on a pedestal and made yourself think that you're totally unique in the knowledge you have received. The pressure must be immense up there. Come on down, be one of us. Let fall those extremely high standards of knowledge that you have set for yourself. Differences aside, we're all in the same boat. We're all sinners in need of salvation. Jesus loves you.
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If I never find one, then I'm better off dead.

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The following is not a slam, Melon, but just something that appears to be true. Perhaps one of the reasons you feel unsatisfied and fulfilled is because you've set yourself on a pedestal and made yourself think that you're totally unique in the knowledge you have received.
It's something I never asked for. I'm different for just being who I am. I'm being myself, and maybe perhaps if everyone were truly themselves, we'd have more "unique" people out there.

And I'm not trying to claim a monopoly in knowledge. In fact, I've been purposely putting holes in my arguments the last couple months, some subtle, some gaping wide, seeing if anyone would notice. This may sound arrogant, and I apologize if it does, but there's nothing more I'd love than to find a peer with my breadth of knowledge. That's quite hard in practice I've found, as my knowledge isn't confined to restrictive IQ and test scores.

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The pressure must be immense up there. Come on down, be one of us. Let fall those extremely high standards of knowledge that you have set for yourself. Differences aside, we're all in the same boat. We're all sinners in need of salvation. Jesus loves you.
There's nothing more I'd love to do right now than to come down from my cloud and to give in to the world, but every time I've done that, I've found myself dissatisfied. And the one thing that I always found comfort in, knowledge, is just as empty to me now.

Oh but I know God is there. Add that to my sense of intuition, but I know when He's there. I know when He's guiding me. In fact, I had my alarm set for 8:30 am for a 9:10 am class, but also had lots of work to do beforehand, but I was too depressed last night to really care. The last ounce of my brain told me to wake up at 7:00 am to get the stuff done. What time do I awake, oddly completely refreshed? 6:59 am.

And this isn't an isolated incident. I've felt God's presence my entire life. I know exactly when He intervenes in my life. I have probably an oversensitivity to what is wrong with this world, and I internalize it too often. Perhaps this is why my treatises on religion here are often...."unconventional" to say the least, neither liberal nor conservative.

But I have calmed down since last night. I do have my fits of emotional rage here and there, but I usually keep it to myself. I will leave my life now to God, whom I have always left it to, and, somehow, He has always put me in the right place. I feel the bigger picture I fall into for the future, but, in the meantime, it just feels so incredibly empty. I'm impatient I guess...

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Melon, I realize that the term "come on down" was a poor choice of word - sounded the way I didn't intend. Please know that I am not knocking you. I just think you expect too much of yourself. It's okay to let it all fall, and to say "I can't handle it". God knows we can't handle it. We can glory in our weakness because He is our strength. I'm glad to see that you are turning to Him. I will pray for you, and you can pray for me.

For some reason now, I feel that arguing with you will never be the same again.

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cheer up melon, things will get better it always comes in phases
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melon, i did the test

I am an idealist too...

Idealists, as a temperament, are passionately concerned with personal growth and development. Idealists strive to discover who they are and how they can become their best possible self--always this quest for self-knowledge and self-improvement drives their imagination.

You will always struggle with who you are at times, we all do. No matter how high your IQ is, its not going to protect you from experiencing feelings of self doubt and dissatisfaction with the path your life is taking.


Idealists are enthusiastic, they trust their intuition, yearn for romance, seek their true self, prize meaningful relationships, and dream of attaining wisdom.
Idealists pride themselves on being loving, kindhearted, and authentic.
Idealists tend to be giving, trusting, spiritual, and they are focused on personal journeys and human potentials.
Idealists make intense mates, nurturing parents, and inspirational leaders.


I dont think those things are too bad. We all need to search for our soul and at times go off and find the self that we feel we've lost.Don't you think if you had it together and were in tune with who you are and what you wanted all the time, then you'd become a pretty stagnant and uninspired being?You are a mere mortal, melon, and you are far too hard on the part of you that is trying to catch up with the 'special' part.
Give that head of yours a rest and see what happens.
Go lie on a beach in the rain, run through a garden late at night without any pants on, drink a glass of chocolate milk with 4 teaspoons of chocolate...
These things won't help your struggle but they may help you to relax a little in the meanwhile.
Bono claims he's still looking for that thing he can't find. Aren't we all in some way?
I honestly think in order to find ourselves, we need to go out and get a little lost.Go get lost for a while, you never know who you might find in the process.

I know 80s is certain that romantic love isnt always going to happen, but if you do give up on it, then that may well be.

Hope is a wonderful thing and for an idealist like me, sometimes its all that keeps me going.

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