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Old 01-01-2002, 10:58 PM   #16
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Kobayashi, you just strengthened my fear with the fact they have abandoned strengthening security.
hey i'm just telling you the truth.
granted there is danger in the products of nuclear power production, just as with any other feasible power generation, but there is also a lot of money, time, and people invested in finding ways to safely dispose of these byproducts

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Old 01-01-2002, 11:55 PM   #17
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Actually, nuclear power plants aren't very efficient at all.
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We need nuclear power, unless you'd rather rely on coal. Zero-emissions are pretty good for our ozone, better than all that CO2 we pump into the air. I'm sure there are ways to dispose of the waste. It would be a lot safer to use this than coal power (wasn't that London fog that killed all those people 30-40 yrs. ago from a coal plant?).
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Actually, nuclear power plants aren't very efficient at all.
I should clarify. With respect to $ consumed and E generated, nuclear power plants aren't very efficient at all.

To wit:

"High construction costs are perhaps the most serious obstacle to nuclear power expansion. Construction costs for reactors completed since the mid-1980s have ranged from $2-$6 billion, averaging about $3,000 per kilowatt of electric generating capacity (in 1995 dollars). The nuclear industry predicts that new plant designs could be built for about half that amount, but their total generating costs would still exceed currently projected costs for new coal- and gas-fired plants."
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Old 01-02-2002, 02:01 AM   #20
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I should clarify. With respect to $ consumed and E generated, nuclear power plants aren't very efficient at all.

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"High construction costs are perhaps the most serious obstacle to nuclear power expansion. Construction costs for reactors completed since the mid-1980s have ranged from $2-$6 billion, averaging about $3,000 per kilowatt of electric generating capacity (in 1995 dollars). The nuclear industry predicts that new plant designs could be built for about half that amount, but their total generating costs would still exceed currently projected costs for new coal- and gas-fired plants."
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i was referring to emmissions.
once again, nuclear power provides the best overall balance of economic feasibility, environmental effect, and quality.

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Old 01-02-2002, 11:38 AM   #21
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i was referring to emmissions.

Oh, I wasn't responding to you specifically. I was responding to those here who have implied or flat out stated that nuclear power plants are efficient energy producers, which simply isn't true.




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Old 01-02-2002, 02:13 PM   #22
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hey i'm just telling you the truth.
granted there is danger in the products of nuclear power production, just as with any other feasible power generation, but there is also a lot of money, time, and people invested in finding ways to safely dispose of these byproducts

I know you were telling me the truth, and I thank ya for it, I'm not having a go at you!

My main reason for starting this thread was Sellafield, and the danger it poses to Ireland, through emmisions, waste, and also mainly the post sept 11 fear of freaks in world. You were saying about security not being tightened up, which I find worrying in these times. The threat is very real. But some of ye have also pointed out the stability of reactors etc, which is very nice to hear, as I ain't too up on the insides of Nuclear stations, but as far as Sellafield goes, there ain't 1 Irish person who has faith in the stability of that place, they have had problems in the past, and it's just a liability.

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In the US same story, there is a Nuclear Power station just outside NY, forgetthe name of it.
do you mean three mile island?

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There's a nuclear powerplant about 2 hours away from where I live. After 9/11 there was this huge "Well, what the hell do we do now that people can blow us up with planes?" They put more police around there. Good work guys! They'll never get us if there are more ground patrol cops there!

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Old 01-06-2002, 08:51 PM   #25
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do you mean three mile island?

I think that is it, I only heard it mentioned in a documentary, but that sounds like it.
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http://wwww.britishnuclearfuels.com

That's a very informative website about British Nuclear Fuels Ltd who are the company who operate Sellafield.

Also, the concern about Sellafield now isn't regarding nuclear power, it's regarding the re-processing of nuclear waste.

If people are concerned about a terrorist attack on a nuclear power plant, you might also be interested to know that it has been suggested that terrorists could produce a nuclear weapon from plutonium obtained due to poor safety standards at Sellafield.

Anyway, there's a lot more information on the website so I won't bore you with my thoughts anymore
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Old 01-12-2002, 06:35 PM   #27
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I think nuclear power is a bad form of power as not only is it a hazard as the plant could explode or waste could be used to make a bomb but also it does not only affect the people who built and use it. The radiation can spread and does from Sellafield into the Irish Sea which then affects the Irish who had nothing to do with producing the waste and so should not have to deal with the side effects but unfortunately it doesn't work like that. The process produces dangerous waste that we still don't know the full damaging effects of and it is not only our problem now with how to deal with the waste but it remains dangerous for 1000s of years so in generations time our childrens, childrens, children will be trying to clear up our mess. It has to stop before another disaster of any sort. PLEASE Especially shut down Sellafield. There is also a nuclear power station just down the road in Hartlepool. I have been there a few times on school visits but atleast if we must have nuclear power here it affects us the English and not anyone else like Sellafield does to the Irish. It's not right. The Irish don't make the waste and try to take care of their environment so it is unfair to put such a hazard near them

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