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Old 08-23-2001, 07:39 AM   #16
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Honestly Oz. Womens Lib has gone overboard.

My views are prolly gonna piss you off like hell, but they're my opinions.

For starters, women dont belong anywhere. in the kitchen or hauling their asses up the corporate ladder in some male dominated stress invoking environment to the detriment of the family. Each woman regardless of family status belongs where she feels she wants to be. That, Im sure you will agree on.

Do you mean by your reply that you think less of women that choose to stay at home and raise the children? I sincerely hope not. Each role in the family is important whether it be the mother with the kids or the father who has the responsibility of bringing home the dough to support them.

I guess when it comes down to it, I do believe women should be at home raising the children. This is for a number if reasons. Firstly, if you do not wish to raise them, do all those motherly things, then why have them at all? Theres also the bond issue. Mothers who spend 12 hours a day at work and only see their kids when they are picked up or dropped off at day care cannot honestly be developing the best relationship with their mother. A woman who feels her job is worth more of her time than her own child shouldnt have had kids. Nothing wrong with being ambitious, but at what price should it come at?

Im sure a lot of fathers are excellent house husbands. If the situation dictates that is the best way to raise the family, then that is obviously the way to do it.

Financially a lot of families cant have the mother stay at home. Thats different though. These kids will grow up happy and well adjusted enough if the parents strive to get the most out of what time they do get with the kids.

Theres probably few who agree with me here. But what could possibly be better than watching your own child grow into a little person? Its something not all of us will have the opportunity to experience. And some of us will stuff up that great role so unbelievably you end up reading about them in the news. Still, I dont understand how some females choose not to do this. For the sake of a career that will not thank them come the age of 55 when they retire.

Just my thoughts.
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Old 08-23-2001, 09:28 AM   #17
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I think it is a good idea if one parent stays home with the kids while they are little. Doesn't have to be mom...

But once the kids are in school...do what you want.

My problem with the 'stay at home woman!' notion is that not all women have that home making personality. Some women do and that's great but its not something you can talk yourself into having if its not there......it would be like lining all the men up in the world and telling them...

"Ok..no matter what your talents and desires or what you are best suited for..you must be a coal miner. Society has determined your personaltiy and temperment is best for this...and society will be more stable if you are a coal miner."

Rather silly...yet we assume all women have the temperment and personality to be home makers when some of them *JUST DON"T*...and no amount of scolding will make it happen.

feminism is about women having options....if she wants to do the traditional thing...she may. If she wants to command the first mission to mars and she has the qualifications...she may. Society does not determine her role and does not condemn her for the choices she makes...(unless of course she decides to be an ax murderer or something! )

My own experience...it was great having mom home while I was little...but as I got older I wished she had at least a part time job. She had her housework done by noon...and sat around and got depressed the rest of the day. She was a miserable person and I think at least a part time job would have helped her...but she was trapped into doing the right thing...and the right thing only made her miserable...

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Only if she wants to and will cook me Spaghetti all the time.
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Old 08-23-2001, 11:08 AM   #20
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LOL Sorry Kat...

I cook spaghetti every nite.

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Old 08-23-2001, 06:39 PM   #21
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I cook spaghetti every nite.
When are you moving to my area??
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Which area is this?

Lets see, spaghetti, lasange and ravioli..... yummmmmmm. Now I'm hungry.

When you're done you'll look like this:




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Old 08-23-2001, 08:10 PM   #23
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Angela- I agree with nearly everything that you had to say and believe me I am not at all a 'Femi Nazi' (right winged Feminist, as we called them at the uni I went to), all that I was trying to point out is the idea of concepts and the understanding that goes along with it, like how can one truly understand something if they never experience it. I believe that children will grow up in a lot of different situations that are full of different individuals and with the shift in recent decades from what is the 'typical' family, we now have children being raised by extended, divorced, single Mother/Father, and gay families, I believe that if there is enough love then a child will get all that they need regardless of whether they have parents or guardians that either do or do not fit into these 'traditional' stereotypes, like I said before the concept of enough love should be the main question and issue
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We are going to eat at an Italian restaurant tomorrow night.
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very obtuse way of putting it, things such as cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc should be shared duties
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I do the laundry, she does the cleaning, we split meals, I mow the lawn, but under her strict supervision.

Is that politically correct enough for these modern times?
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Which area is this?
I'm in Arlington, Texas, which is the Dallas area.

An Italian woman cooking Italian food (my absolute favorite food, even though I'm not in the least bit Italian - I'm a Canadian/Irish/Scottish/Danish mutt). I'm not sure life could get any better than that!
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I make the best stuffed artichokes too..... most americans eat plain steamed artichokes with mayonaise.... ew.

I stuff them with a mixture of bread crumbs, parmesan cheese, olive oil, garlic, and parsely..... yummy..... slow steamed for about an hour..

Ok I am craving artichokes now.





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And some of us do not eat artichokes at all.
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True.... very true.





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