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Old 12-21-2004, 03:33 AM   #1
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Should Turkey Join the EU?

Well, should Turkey join the European Union? Yes? No? Do you care?

I'm actually quite interested to see what Americans think of Turkey joining the EU, seeing how President Bush has always seemed to be in favour of it.

Personally, I'm against it. Passionately so. You may not have an opinion on it, though, so here are a few;


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Will Turkeys entry into EU means... getting into Turkey will allow the person to enter any other country of EU without a seperate verification ?
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I voted yes
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Despite the fact you have only called for opinions from "Americans" I voted no. Turkeys record on human rights is appalling. I also think Turkey should join a Union in their own region. Im aware Turkey participates in the Eurovision song contest so they obvisously consider themselves Euros but I dont.

PS If New Zealand ever try again to join the EU I would vote no for them as well. NZ needs to participate with the Oceania countries.

Maybe one day the world will be four or five large unions, all the human rights issues etc will be resolved, and then, boom, abolish all unions and we can all be one big unified planet.

Not likely in my lifetime though.
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I Would say Yes because every country has a core.
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For the record, I'll only support Turkey's entry in the EU if it fully meets the criteria, especially on human rights, seperation of church and state and the role of the army. I'm not sure it's going to happen though.
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The EU needs Turkey like it needs cheap labour and a new dependant.
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Oh sorry beli, I didn't mean to give the impression that I only wanted to hear from Americans! Far from it, the more opinions expressed the better, I have particular interest in what my fellow Europeans think, however. Oh and incidentally, I like your opinion!

AcrobatMan, it depends what you mean. If your passport is from an EU member state then in theory you don't need any other document in order to move from member state to member state (though if you want to live/work/stay longer than a fixed date, its another story). For instance, my British passport allows me to move from France to Germany, for instance, without a problem, but it does not allow my Macedonian friend to do so, even if she has a European visa, she needs a few more 'tidbits'.

Does that help?

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I'm not sure I understand your rationale, Mullen4Prez, could you explain your point a bit more?

Apologies, I'm probably being very stupid.

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Oh sorry beli, I didn't mean to give the impression that I only wanted to hear from Americans!

Im okay, I was just being difficult
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Ant -

I was talking about potential terrorists for whom Turkey would be easier to penetrate.

Its bordering Iraq anyway..

Will it be easier for him/her to get into other EU countries if Turkey becomes EU. ( assuming he or she can get into EU relatively easily)
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Not a single American in this thread.. but its still morning in America...
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Nope, Turkey is not much of an entry point for terrorism - the danger is found out there in the radical imams who were let into the continent because they were "men of peace", decades of bad immigration policy has set the seeds for Western Europe to become a set of Dhimmi nations in future.
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AcrobatMan; it wouldn't make it easier in terms of letting new terrorists in. What is cause for concern are those radicals who already are here and have EU citizenship; like the Imams A_wanderer mentioned. However, I would like to point out that to class the whole of Western Europe as 'poor' in terms of immigration policy is a bit unfair - you will find that each country has had a separate policy in practice and have led to some very different results. This is visible when you compare London to say, Paris, where racial tension is almost palpable.

However, it definately has been Britain that has had the poorest immigration policies, and now lives in fear from the countless of Imams threatening it from within.

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For the record, I'll only support Turkey's entry in the EU if it fully meets the criteria, especially on human rights, seperation of church and state and the role of the army. I'm not sure it's going to happen though.
On this basis, Britain should be kicked out of the EU because of:-

(1) Illegal anti-terror legislation found to be unconstitutional by its own top judges

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(2) The country's participation in an illegal war which is against the UN charter
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