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Old 05-22-2005, 12:36 PM   #16
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This is FYM though Mrs. S....
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Old 05-22-2005, 01:09 PM   #17
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I really don't know what to think of pornography. My only exposure to it has been, believe it or not, at work, where there's the issue of it being against the library rules for people who use the Internet to go to pornographic sites. The people who get caught doing this tend to be jerks. They're middle-aged men, and I think maybe they are caught in unhappy marriages or divorced or something. They seem to have problems in their lives.
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Yes it is FYM but sorry, in all honesty it gets a bit tiring when his viewpoint on religion is interjected into every thread, even threads that have nothing to do w/ religion. I believe there was another incident like that recently when someone continued to bring an outside issue into threads and was asked not to do that

Sorry, by now I know how deep feels about Christians

And verte, that's gross that people look at internet porn in a public library, at least do it in private
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Many religious people find sexuality a sin.

especially people who say "we are all sinners."

it is an easy target, easy to identify

Wrong. Most Christians know that God created sexuality and view it as good thing beetween people who are married to each other.
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Most Christians know that God created sexuality and view it as good thing beetween people who are married to each other.
Sexuality is a part of every person, married or not. Perhaps you meant to say the expression of it should be between married folks?
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Sexuality is a part of every person, married or not. Perhaps you meant to say the expression of it should be between married folks?
Yes, that's what I meant. Thank you.
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And verte, that's gross that people look at internet porn in a public library, at least do it in private
Yes, it is. We get all sorts of nuts in the library. A few times drunks have been in there assaulting the workers. This is scary, to say the least. The fact that these guys are coming in and looking at pornography sites makes me at least some of the people in our society who are into pornography. They'd have problems if pornography didn't exist, so I don't think you can blame pornography alone for their problems. I think they've probably been through divorces or are locked into unhappy marriages, like I said. We're always going to have divorce and unhappy marriages.
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Wrong. Most Christians know that God created sexuality and view it as good thing beetween people who are married to each other.


while this view on the expression of sexuality makes logical sense, it does beg the question -- what do gay people do? what do people who never find someone to marry do? are they to remain celibate for the duration of their lives?

or might this emphasis on sex in marriage only not result in an unhealthy suppression of natural desires but then the unhealty question to find outlets?

i do worry about this balance, between responsibility and natural desire -- we are animals, but we are animals capable of rational thought and as such mus take responisibility for our actions. i am a fan of responsible sexual behavior, and being responsible means different things in different situations, but the marriage only view seems to me to produce a climate where you encourage marriages at a young age that are then more likely to result in divorce.
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Why is it dangerous?
It creates an unrealistic ideal that can interfere with the natural development of a relationship in reality.

If it creates a thought of "why doesn't she look that way" or "why doesn't she do that for me" - it has created a subtle harm.

Now, I'm sure everyone thinks they can fully separate the two, but if you look at the factors that lead to relationships breaking up, porn is near the top of the list.
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while this view on the expression of sexuality makes logical sense, it does beg the question -- what do gay people do? what do people who never find someone to marry do? are they to remain celibate for the duration of their lives?
I'm not married. I am celibate.
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I really don't know what to think of pornography. My only exposure to it has been, believe it or not, at work, where there's the issue of it being against the library rules for people who use the Internet to go to pornographic sites. The people who get caught doing this tend to be jerks. They're middle-aged men, and I think maybe they are caught in unhappy marriages or divorced or something. They seem to have problems in their lives.
Don't your library have some sort of filtration system? I haven't been to my library lately but I remember there were certain sites that you cannot access... mainly because most of the patrons of the internet back then were kiddies. Maybe disabling certain keywords that people use (just like when you're on a network at a pc in a university won't let you go into their control panels) would deter them from looking at porn.
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It creates an unrealistic ideal that can interfere with the natural development of a relationship in reality.

If it creates a thought of "why doesn't she look that way" or "why doesn't she do that for me" - it has created a subtle harm.
Again, though, that's not the porn's fault. They're just putting a particular image out there. It's still up to us as individuals as to whether or not we want to look like that, or want others to look like that. Don't blame the porn for some people's attitudes, which they most likely would have had long before they saw a porn image. And again, I know guys who've looked at porn, and haven't had that kind of attitude towards their girlfriends/wives. So what about them?

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Don't your library have some sort of filtration system? I haven't been to my library lately but I remember there were certain sites that you cannot access... mainly because most of the patrons of the internet back then were kiddies. Maybe disabling certain keywords that people use (just like when you're on a network at a pc in a university won't let you go into their control panels) would deter them from looking at porn.
I guess not. I don't work with the patrons who use the Internet. My duties at the library are mainly cleaning the shelves and making sure sure the books are in Dewey Decimal order, this is why we ask that patrons not re-shelve the books! Sometimes the shelves are so out of order it's really hard getting them back in order. I do know that there's a list of rules at the computer station and "No Pornography" is one of them.
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Oo, verte, I used to have your job. I am terribly civic-conscious when it comes to books.
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It creates an unrealistic ideal that can interfere with the natural development of a relationship in reality.

If it creates a thought of "why doesn't she look that way" or "why doesn't she do that for me" - it has created a subtle harm.

Now, I'm sure everyone thinks they can fully separate the two, but if you look at the factors that lead to relationships breaking up, porn is near the top of the list.
I think if porn weren't available, something else would break up those relationships. Unrealistic men can always find something to blame.
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