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Old 12-11-2001, 11:20 PM   #16
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I don't believe anything the government tells me. It's not in their "best interest" to tell the truth.

How do we know the government is lying? Because it's not in its best interest to tell the truth.

How do we know it's not in the goverment's best interest to tell the truth? Because the truth isn't very attractive.

How do we know the truth isn't very attractive?

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Old 12-12-2001, 03:54 AM   #17
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Another lead into the 6 o'clock news.

Just what Americans want...right?

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Old 12-12-2001, 04:25 AM   #18
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No matter who's behind this, we'd all be in big trouble if nobody ever questioned their government's authority.
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Old 12-12-2001, 09:03 AM   #19
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No matter who's behind this, we'd all be in big trouble if nobody ever questioned their government's authority.
So true.

The government claims to be "defending freedom" and then turns around and pulls shit like this:

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Individuals brought before the tribunals would have no right to a jury trial, no right to confront their accusers and no right to judicial review of trial procedures or sentences, which could include death.
Sounds like what we are claiming to defend, right?

So, people rightly criticize such measures.

And what does the Attorney General of The United States say in response?

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"To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists."
So exercising your First Amendment rights now makes you a terrorist and voicing your disagreement with those who wish to trample the Constitution - and the liberties we are supposed to be defending - makes you just as bad as those who finaced the September 11 attacks.



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Old 12-12-2001, 12:22 PM   #20
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I guess it's a matter of translation. Whenever I see him on his tapes and hear the translator's voice over it I wonder what he's ACTUALLY saying...so yes, I want to see it, but that doesn't stop me from questioning what he's saying.

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I think they should be released. I for one would be interested to see the evidence that was supposedly provided to my government (Britain) which ended in our complete idiot of a Prime minister handing over a blank cheque to the US.

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Old 12-12-2001, 10:10 PM   #22
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Release it..As long as it's NOT Bin Laden's personal porno tape ( throws up at the thought), I want to see it.
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Release it..As long as it's NOT Bin Laden's personal porno tape ( throws up at the thought), I want to see it.
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Old 12-13-2001, 09:14 AM   #24
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Release it..As long as it's NOT Bin Laden's personal porno tape ( throws up at the thought), I want to see it.
ooooooooooooooooooooooookay...maybe this thread should be moved to Lemonade Stand or PLEBAO.
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As serious as this topic is, LOL @ PLEBAO!
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There is an excerpt of it online here:
http://europe.cnn.com/video/us/2001/...d.exclude.html

It doesn't play well though.
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Is there only one official translation so far, or have independent media had the opportunity to listen to the original sound? Also, I heard some speculation that the sound was so bad that it was hard to tell what was being said at all.

Not to be annoying or anything, just looking for the truth.
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Just think how flimsy the other evidence is, if this is causing such a stir.

And on a personal level, can someone tell me what I can do, to stop myself shouting at the TV and radio at inept journalism and reporting 'cos it's upsetting the wife (this isn't just about the 'war' either, it's everything. And don't get me started on the newspapers)
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Stop watching CNN, Tizer.
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Is there only one official translation so far, or have independent media had the opportunity to listen to the original sound? Also, I heard some speculation that the sound was so bad that it was hard to tell what was being said at all.

Not to be annoying or anything, just looking for the truth.
The sound on the copies of the tape released to the media outlets is terrible, no doubt. But those were probably lower-fidelity copies of the original. I'm not sure what conclusions you could draw from this though.

No one who has heard the original has complained about its quality--the only instance I can think of where this would happen would be if the US hired some other translator who quit the project because he didn't want to issue a dubious translation.
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