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Old 10-06-2004, 03:22 PM   #1
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Should Saddam be freed?

Lets assume the following things anti-war advocates would have us believe are in fact true...

1. Iraq had NO WMDs.
2. There was NO Iraq - Osama connection.
3. There was NO Iraq-911 connection.

If so, going to war was completely unjust and Saddam is being imprisoned unfairly. The logical conclusion would be to free Saddam. How can we continue to hold him as a prisoner of war if the reasons for going to war were grounded in error?

Why aren't the anti-war advocates calling for him to be freed?
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umm cuz saddam was a personified weapon of massive human destruction?

u tell me.

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no

John Walker should, though.
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Re: Should Saddam be freed?

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Originally posted by MaxFisher
Lets assume the following things anti-war advocates would have us believe are in fact true...

1. Iraq had NO WMDs.
2. There was NO Iraq - Osama connection.
3. There was NO Iraq-911 connection.

If so, going to war was completely unjust and Saddam is being imprisoned unfairly. The logical conclusion would be to free Saddam. How can we continue to hold him as a prisoner of war if the reasons for going to war were grounded in error?

Why aren't the anti-war advocates calling for him to be freed?
Oh it must be nice to live in a world where everything is so simplified.
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I am in no way advocating Saddam's release. I am staunch republican. My point is that I think it is logically inconsistent for liberals to condemn the war because it was based on lies and yet praise the capture and imprisonment of Saddam.
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Max,
would you consider counseling for saddam?

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I am in no way advocating Saddam's release.

would you advocate a pardon for osama?
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I am in no way advocating Saddam's release. I am staunch republican. My point is that I think it is logically inconsistent for liberals to condemn the war because it was based on lies and yet praise the capture and imprisonment of Saddam.
So staunch Republicans = wanting Saddam captured.

Democrat = Wanting Saddam free.

Your logic is too simple, but consistantly simple with this administrations, so I'll give you points for loyalty.

I guess the end justifies the means?
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Max raises an interesting point. What standard of US jurisprudence should be applied, in a consistent fashion, in this case, if at all?
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Saddam is being charged with human rights violations -- killing his own people and such. He was a bad man, no one will deny, and since we have captured him, we should put him away and start fresh.

People are anti-war not because we like Saddam but because we like our troops, at least that's why in my case. They didn't have WMDs, we don't have an exit strategy. We went in because we could. It's wrong. I don't want our troops there. I want them in Afghanistan. Why are we in Iraq yet using warloads to find bin Laden? Why didn't we support the Kurds in '91 to overthrow the government? Hm...look no further than a book by former President Bush for that answer.
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we don't have an exit strategy.
This is no accident.


This is no oversight.
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I would like to ask this: What would Democrats propose we do with Saddam if they didn't feel it necessary to go to war with him?

All talk, no action? Just look away while horrible atrocities are committed?

Just wondering...
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We went in because of WMD's am I wrong? Why isn't he being charged for having WMD's? Where exactly are the inconsistancies? Everyone take a look in the mirror before they start pointing fingers.
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Thanks nbcrusader for understanding my point.

Let me repeat that I hate Saddam and I am glad he was captured. I support the troops, etc.

All I was saying is that if the war was injust, then how can keeping Saddam a prisoner be justified?
If you say that it is for human rights violations then was going to war worth it even with no WMDs?

And, no, bonovoxsupastar, I don't think democrat equals saddam free. I just was saying that I was a republican and supported the war because I was afraid my original post might be comming off like I was really in favor of freeing Saddam.
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We went in because of WMD's am I wrong? Why isn't he being charged for having WMD's? Where exactly are the inconsistancies? Everyone take a look in the mirror before they start pointing fingers.

No, I don't believe that's the reason we went into Iraq. The possibility was one of the many reasons that were seemingly piling up. Besides WMDs, there were supposed connections with Osama, crimes against humanity, and tension following 911.
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