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Old 12-13-2003, 11:47 AM   #16
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sherry Darling
[B]In my never really all that humble opinion , ther are two ways to move toward facisim. One is to require religion. The other is to forbid it.

What a great quote!
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Old 12-14-2003, 08:44 AM   #17
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In fact I've never seen a single woman in a burqa in my life, either in my home city or here at my university, and there's a large Muslim population here on campus.
I've seen women wearing them quite a bit in east London. It was a bit of a culture shock since I'd never seen anyone in the US wearing one.
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On a news program last night I saw a report about how the French government want's to help people coming to France assimilate into the French culture. But these people are not coming there to be French. I have a problem with this in the respect that it is, in a way a direct violation of a persons religious freedoms.

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I see this woman every week who runs a service (gas) station here dressed in the head scarves that I've seen other Muslim women wear. She is from Saudia Arabia. She feels free to wear and worship as she please's - here in the US.
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Old 12-14-2003, 09:10 AM   #19
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in Singapore we had a similar issue with this last year and it got really ugly (google 'tudung issue' and you'll find the relevant info if you're interested)

my personal opinion? i don't think there should be a problem of Muslim girls wearing headscarves.
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Old 12-14-2003, 01:18 PM   #20
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what about burqa - the black dress that covers everything ? should it be allowed in schools ? by the same logic as most of the people here, it should be allowed in government educational institutions.
If one wants to wear a burqa, by all means, why not?

If one wants to wear a shirt with ones cleavage bursting out, go for it.

Swords are different. If a country has a law against weapons, it should be respected.

If a person emigrates to another country, they must be prepared to bend, as does the country if it accepts the person.
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If a woman chooses to wear a burqa, why not? I don't see burqas, headscarves, or any other religious symbol as any sort of problem. To many devout Moslems they are simply a sign of modesty. Also some of these women think these are very pretty and enjoy wearing them. It's just plain wrong to tell them they can't wear them to school or anywhere else. It's ridiculous. I think you're right Dr. Teeth it's anti-Islamic. It stinks when the government, any government, gets this uptight about an entire religion because of a small crew of idiots. If a woman does not want to wear these garments she shouldn't have to. They should have a choice. I'd be furious if anyone told me to stop wearing my St. Jude medal. Stop telling Moslems they can't wear religious dress.
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unfortunately most of you have gone "out of the topic". the topic was whether or not head scraf should be allowed IN GOVERNMENT( state ) SCHOOLS.

>>If a person emigrates to another country, they must be >>prepared to bend, as does the country if it accepts the person

i couldnt agree more ..similar names..similar thoughts.

obviously everyone should be free ( and they are free) to wear whatever they want in all open, free, democratic and secular countries & france, i believe is one of them.

>>I've never seen a single woman in a burqa in my life

how can you see the woman if she is wearing a burqa.
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Old 12-15-2003, 02:48 PM   #23
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And to think, I initially thought this was going to be about the Survivor Buff.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LCK
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In my never really all that humble opinion , ther are two ways to move toward facisim. One is to require religion. The other is to forbid it.

What a great quote!
Thank you!
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What idiocy. Surely the French people have better things to do.
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God. I could believe it, even expect it, when Singapore banned headscarves last year, but Europe? I thought they were more tolerant.

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This is just another step to try to contain religious (read: islamic) extremism, mostly by rightwing governments. Don't be fooled into thinking this is about religion in general, the talk about Christian crosses and Jewish kippa is just a cover-up. This is about a fear lots of Europeans seem to have for the islam and for muslim extremism.
I think you nailed it.
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There are religions

1) that disallow shoes or slippers

2) that disallow clothes with any color except WHITE


I think they should all migrate to French govt schools to practise it.
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>> fear lots of Europeans seem to have for the islam and for >muslim extremism

why dont europeans fear buddhist militants is beyond me
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of all countries, IRAN...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3343119.stm
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