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Old 01-30-2007, 09:07 AM   #106
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If TR is going to leave because he is uncomfortable with IW, then IW should leave.
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If TR is going to leave because he is uncomfortable with IW, then IW should leave.

You make me uncomfortable. So you should leave. Is that fair?
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You make me uncomfortable. So you should leave. Is that fair?
If it effects the working environment to where people cannot effectively perform their jobs, then yes.
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Old 01-30-2007, 02:07 PM   #109
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You make me uncomfortable. So you should leave. Is that fair?
Uncomfortable to the point where you don't know if this guy is going to mouth off at you or in public with you again. He shouldn't be have to work in an atomosphere like that. He didn't ask for it

Most people think I make them feel very comfortable.
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You make me uncomfortable. So you should leave. Is that fair?
Your livelihood doesn't depend upon posting on Interference, and you aren't subjected to slurs based upon your race, sexual orientation, or anything else here. It goes beyond "uncomfortable"- legally and otherwise. It's his workplace. I don't know about Honduras, but in the US there are laws regarding hostile work environment and what constitutes that-and harassment. You can look it up on the internet if you're so inclined

If ABC can't legally do anything about it based upon the law and their company policies, perhaps they will just find another way around that. But it is fundamentally unfair for someone to feel they have to leave their employment and a job that they are so good at and probably love because basically someone they work with can't keep his ignorant mouth shut.
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^It's a tricky balancing act though. A few years ago a writer's assistant on "Friends" sued the show's producers for sexual harassment because of the "hostile work environment" created by the continuous off-color joking around in the writer's room. The case was thrown out because the judge ruled that the interactions in question were not hateful, but simply a necessary part of the creative process. While one can argue that Isaiah's comments were derogatory in nature (though they weren't targeted at TR to his face), the question is at what point does standards and practices come in?

I'm not saying the entertainment industry is or should be subject to a different set of rules and standards. Hate speech is hate speech. However, what we're all talking about here is the tricky line between corporate standards and creative freedom. While I can agree that Isaiah's comments were stupid and problematic, I can't say necessarily that they were hateful. We haven't seen him demonstrate sustained homophobic actions. Is the word "faggot" hateful? In the mouths of some, absolutely. On the set of a TV show, where off-color, offensive language is the order of the day, it isn't always.
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^It's a tricky balancing act though. A few years ago a writer's assistant on "Friends" sued the show's producers for sexual harassment because of the "hostile work environment" created by the continuous off-color joking around in the writer's room. The case was thrown out because the judge ruled that the interactions in question were not hateful, but simply a necessary part of the creative process. While one can argue that Isaiah's comments were derogatory in nature (though they weren't targeted at TR to his face), the question is at what point does standards and practices come in?

I'm not saying the entertainment industry is or should be subject to a different set of rules and standards. Hate speech is hate speech. However, what we're all talking about here is the tricky line between corporate standards and creative freedom. While I can agree that Isaiah's comments were stupid and problematic, I can't say necessarily that they were hateful. We haven't seen him demonstrate sustained homophobic actions. Is the word "faggot" hateful? In the mouths of some, absolutely. On the set of a TV show, where off-color, offensive language is the order of the day, it isn't always.
I remember that Friend's situation and at my job we were vert anxious to see how that ruling would go, as we're in the entertianment business as well.
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