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Old 02-18-2004, 05:18 PM   #16
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I've never stepped foot in a WalMart. Fight the WalMartization of our country!

SUPPORT YOUR COMMUNITY'S SMALL BUSINESSES
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I've never stepped foot in a WalMart. Fight the WalMartization of our country!

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You have definitely not missed anything.
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:07 PM   #18
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The corporation took out nearly 350,000 life insurance policies on their employees. They did not tell the employees and then named the corporation as the beneficiary. They are now being sued by numerous employees, and although the corporation has stopped this practice of purchasing what is known as "Dead Peasant Policy's", a company spokesperson stated, "The company feels it acted properly and legally in doing this."
I don't like WalMart as much as the next person, but this is actually a normal company thing. In fact, most of you probably have the same thing if you work at a large company. The company gets the insurance money to cover lost productivity and revenue if an employee dies.

As for the Laurie family [Sam Walton's heirs], I have issue with them. Went to school at the Univ. of Missouri where Sam Walton went. He was from the area in fact. The university is now getting a brand new arena it didn't need because the Laurie family donated the money to build it. Meanwhile, tuition keeps going up and the student seating policy for the basketball games in the present arena is beyond horrible. But that's a different story -- don't get me started.
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I won't go to Wal-Mart. In fact, I'd rather pay more elsewhere than step into that hellhole.

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Union propaganda i think not.

Why is that LA is banning Super Wal Marts if they are so good for the community?
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I heard Walmart's enroaching into the SoCal. supermarket industry precipitateed the LA labor union strikes.

Companies like Ralphs and Vons couldn't figure any other way to compete with Walmart than to cut workers' benefits... Of course, WalMart is non-Union... so I guess WalMart employees could never go on strikes like those other supermarket companies.

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It could be that no matter the approach, labor simply wouldn't be able to win a fight against supermarkets committed to significantly lowering their costs as they prepare for an assault from Wal-Mart Stores Inc. and other big discount grocers.
It's not just what I've gleaned from news. But my business professors and their guest speakers have pointed out the same thing.

Walmart's evil.
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Is Toys R Us bankrupt? How bizarre. I wonder how many of our chains are owned by these companies you guys are talking about. Here Coles Myer own or have companies which own the Toys R Us chain, Target, KMart, Coles supermarkets and Grace Bros/Myer dept stores and now have their fingers in Shell Petrol. They also have something to do with Dick Smith. Which means nothing to anyone outside Australia, but its interesting. If our Coles Myer are somehow connected to you guys overseas, your Target stores might not be as saintly as you imagine. Even more interesting is that Woolworths Ltd still have the stronghold on the retail industry here.
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Old 02-19-2004, 09:04 AM   #23
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Union propaganda i think not.

Why is that LA is banning Super Wal Marts if they are so good for the community?
I love how this post comes before, Ironically, this post!

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I heard Walmart's enroaching into the SoCal. supermarket industry precipitateed the LA labor union strikes.

Companies like Ralphs and Vons couldn't figure any other way to compete with Walmart than to cut workers' benefits... Of course, WalMart is non-Union... so I guess WalMart employees could never go on strikes like those other supermarket companies.
Again...Yes, Wal_Mart could be seen as "evil" - I am in complete agreement with this! BUT, what you are being fed by your Union IS IN FACT Union Propaganda (I'm still wondering how the punch is!?). The grocers union controversy in SoCal right now is due to Wal-Mart. Do you see the realtionship?

In this case, the Von's and Ralph's are JUST as bad as the Unions and Wal-Mart in this whole picture.

Why are the Unions bad:
They are nothing more thn companies just like the Vons and Wal-Marts who are out there to turn a profit - often putting up this front of "working for the small guy." The unions ask the "small guy" to go and picket these grocery stores and bother customers to scare them away from the stores. Some of the picketers have followed customers to their cars, yelling at them. HELLO...what happens when this strike is settled? These same people the picketers bothered, with be 1) shopping at Wal-mart or 2) getting their revenge on the produce clerk who harrased them. NO ONE WINS in the end.
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Target in America is actually a decent company. They treat their employees pretty well and give back about 1 million dollars a week to charities...primarily educational institutes (schools, etc.).

Now, they do have their issues with products made in third world countries...and are often called out for that stuff...but they also make an effort to correct these issues.

They are quite the ethically proactive corporation. I have said it a few times....I would LOVE to be working for Target Corporation at their headquarters in Minneapolis.
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Why are the Unions bad:
They are nothing more thn companies just like the Vons and Wal-Marts who are out there to turn a profit - often putting up this front of "working for the small guy." The unions ask the "small guy" to go and picket these grocery stores and bother customers to scare them away from the stores. Some of the picketers have followed customers to their cars, yelling at them. HELLO...what happens when this strike is settled? These same people the picketers bothered, with be 1) shopping at Wal-mart or 2) getting their revenge on the produce clerk who harrased them. NO ONE WINS in the end.
Exactly. Unions do not like Walmart because they have not been able to profit off of Walmart.
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zoney- my previous post was something that was on my mind for a long while (as early as LAST DECEMBER). But i didn't want to get into arguments that i couldn't back up from what i gleaned from the news. I've seen reports from LA's local news stations and LA Times.

This guest speaker (for a business class I took last semester), a financial analyst, mentioned the link between Wal-Mart and the supermarket strikes. He also gave the class this copy of information on Wal-Mart (which I will transcribe in the following):

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It posted $245 billion in sales in its most recent fiscal year -- nearly twice as much as General Electric Co. and almost eight times as much as Microsoft Corp. It is the nation's largest seller of toys, furniture, jewelry, dog food and scores of other consumer products. It is the largest grocer in the United States.

Wal-Mart's decisions influence wages and working conditions across a wide swath of the world economy, from the shopping centers of Las Vegas to the factories of Honduras and South Asia. Its business is so vital to developing countries that some send emissaries to the corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Ark., almost as if Wal-Mart were a sovereign nation.

The company has prospered by elevating one goal above all others: cutting prices relentlessly. U.S. economists say its tightfistedness has not only boosted its own bottom line, but also helped hold down the inflation rate for the entire country. Consumers reap the benefits every time they push a cart through Wal-Mart's checkout lines.

Yet Wal-Mart's astonishing success exacts a heavy price.

By squeezing suppliers to cut wholesale costs, the company hastened the flight of U.S. manufacturing jobs overseas. By scouring the globe for the cheapest goods, it has driven factory jobs from one poor nation to another.

Wal-Mart's penny-pinching extends to its own 1.2 million U.S. employees, none of them unionized. By the company's own admission, a full-time worker might not be able to support a family on a Wal-Mart paycheck.

Then there are casualties like Kelly Gray. As Wal-Mart exapnds rapidly into groceries, it is causing upheaval in yet another corner of the economy. When a Supercenter moves into town, competitors often are wiped out, taking high-paying union jobs with them. Wal-Mart's plans to enter the grocery business in California early next year have thrown the state's supermarket industry into turmoil. Fearful of Wal-Mart's ability to undercut them on price, the Ralphs, Vons and Albertsons chains have sought concessions from their unionized workers in Southern and Central California, leading to a work stoppage now entering its seventh week.

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* Number of visits to U.S. Wal-Marts weekly: 100 million

* Single-day sales record: $1.4 billion for American stores on Nov. 29, 2002 - larger than the annual GDP of Belize, Greenland, and Monaco. (Source: Wal-Mart & the CIA World Factbook)

*Number of new employees Wal-Mart plans to hire through 2008: 800,000 -- the equivalent to adding all the workers at General Motor Corp. and Ford Motor Co. combined (Source: Wal-Mart & Hoovers)

*Number of ocean shipping containers imported in 2002: 291,900. Home Depot was No. 2 at 182,000.

*Missouri has both the largest and the smallest Wal-Marts in the country. Store No. 146 in Lousiana, Mo., is 29,700 square feet. Supercenter No. 1484 in Kansas City, Mo., is nearly nine times its size bigger at 260,514 square feet.

*Wal Mart's distribution center in Bentonville covers 1.2 million square feet, which could hold 24 football fields, 800 tennis courts or 7 Major League Baseball fields. (Source: Wal-Mart)

* President Bill Clinton, then Arkansas Governor, played saxophone at the 1990 dedication of the Wal-Mart Visitors Center in Bentonville, Ark.

* Wal-Mart is the country's top seller of dog food, disposable diapers, photographic film, toothpaste and pain remedies. (Fortune magazine, Feb. 2003 article)

*Wal-Mart is three times the size of Carrefour, the world's second largest retailer. (Source: Retail Forward)

* Wal Mart stores premit recreation vehicles to park for free on its lots on a store-by-store basis, making Wal-Mart an unofficial campground chain for cross-country travelers.

* Wal-Mart is the No.1 retailer not just in the U.S., but also in Canada and Mexico as well as the U.S. (Source: Wal-Mart)

* If Wal-Mart were a country, its 2002 sales of $245 billion would make it No. 31 on the list of the world's largest economies richest nations, ahead of Saudi Arabia, Switzerland and Austria. (Source: CIA World Factbook)
(If I remember correctly, the information above was extracted from L.A. Times)
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holy shit! I'm going to print those out for my business professor...
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They are quite the ethically proactive corporation. I have said it a few times....I would LOVE to be working for Target Corporation at their headquarters in Minneapolis.
Let us know if the sucking up works.
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I partook in the anti-Wal-Mart crusade for a couple of years, but we hardly made any ground with the mainstream. When money is scarce and the economy sucks nobody cares if they're unfair to their employees.

I live in Stillwater, OK where it feels like half the ecomony is centered around Wal-Mart. I know quite a few people who work there and HATE it. I haven't heard stories about labor violations, but I know they're pricks about everything from break-time (often asking that you skip breaks in order to help stock) to over-time (if you're still on the clock after your shift is over you get "written-up").
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Really, though. Target Corp. is a GOOD corporate citizen. A model for other companies.


I have a fascination with retailers history and how it changes our culture. A good example of this is SEARS and its catalog business (now only a little more than a memory).

Sears sold cheap (read: accesible) guitars through their catalog. These guitars infiltrated the southern states and pushed along the development of the blues (especially in the Mississippi Delta region).

In addition, Sears also sold houses through their catalogs. If you Take a look around a Midwestern and Western city, it is not hard to find a "bungalow" style house. This style of house was propigated by Sears (and similar catalogs). People would pick out their house and find a builder. Everything needed for the house would come on a single-car train flatbed.

Is Wal Mart the Late 20th/Early 21st Century version of Sears? Kind of scary to think that our American Culture (or, should I say a "lack of") may be influenced by Wal Mart.

Wal Mart is America though! America thrives/lives for our own currency/profit...and who is better at building a profit than Wal Mart?

GOD BLESS AMERICA. When are we going to wake up?
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