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Old 08-26-2003, 07:44 PM   #46
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What an apalling thing to do, to sneak the monstrous thing in, then defend it's right to be there. His lack of respect for the law makes him a self-righteous hypocrite of the worst kind.
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Exactly how is the monument "monstrous"??
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Moore's statement is stupid. The more he opens his mouth, the deeper he is digging.
Yep. I've known this guy's true colors for three years. Stupid stuff like this is what I've been getting at. Christianity is not the issue at all. If if were trust me I'd feel differently.
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"Sodomy in the streets." So vaginal sex in the streets is okay? Only in the missionary position, I'm sure.

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"Sodomy in the streets." So vaginal sex in the streets is okay? Only in the missionary position, I'm sure.

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I know that I said that I wasn't going to comment anymore on this topic--and I'm not...I just had to tell melon that my day was made by this--cracked me up

It reminds me (in a very circular way) of a letter I read in the paper today against gay marriage b/c any marriage that isn't for procreation--that is just for companionship and pleasure--is not considered a "real" marriage by the author of the letter. I guess my husband and I don't have a "real" marriage because we have decided not to breed! Hey, maybe we're a gay couple in disguise! People scare me.
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Moore's statement is stupid. The more he opens his mouth, the deeper he is digging.

But how do you draw your conclusion from his statement? Is he really inferring that non-Christians believe something different about kids getting killed in school??
Well I was being slightly sarcastic. But taken in context of everything else said why would he make such a statement. Taken in context it sounds like he's saying Christians are offended by these actions therefore they need to be represented in the courthouse by the Ten Commandments (not even taking into consideration that the Ten Commandments are originally Jewish law). He's already claimed that the Koran doesn't belong in the courthouse so are these people not offended by these actions? This is why there is a separation of church and state. The US government is there to represent the citizens of the US not just the Christian citizens.
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Good points BVS. That's why I was so peeved at his anti-Islamic statement. Dammit, he has Moslem constituents and he is supposed to *serve* them, too, not *rule* them.
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MONTGOMERY, Alabama (CNN) -- Movers Wednesday morning relocated the controversial Ten Commandments monument at the Alabama Judicial Building. The 5,300-pound granite slab remains in the building, but out of public view.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/27/te...nts/index.html

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Yes, I was watching when it was rolled out of the main area this morning. Kind of sad in a way, that something so respected has been brought down to to the level of an argument between a fanatic and the Constitution and the Bible for that matter. I hate having to see something go out of sight just because this guy want's to shove it down everyone's throat. Good riddence to Roy Moore. (don't respect him enough to call him Judge)
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In this enflamed context, Moore’s posturing strikes a chord. As the noted Southern historian Shelby Foote remarked to The New York Times, "He made it sound like he stood for God and everybody who opposed him was against God. For a lot of people with simple minds, that makes perfect sense."

Moore’s defiance has been consecrated and amplified by a media megaphone. Fox News has jumped all over the case daily: Fox Dayside host Linda Vester has whipped her audience of housewives into a frenzy, while the Murdoch network’s skein of demagogic commentators has pummeled TV couch potatoes with declarations that "Millions of Americans just got a wake-up call" in the Ten Commandments case, as syndicated radio talk-jock Mike Gallagher hollered on Fox’s Studio B. "God’s Law Rejected!" screamed the promo for MSNBC’s Scarborough Country, as the Peacock Network continues its lurch to the right to challenge Fox’s dominance in the all-news TV ratings. And the tens of millions of Americans addicted to conservative and Christian radio have been ceaselessly treated to similar rabble-rousings.

"This has been a big story throughout the nation, and it’s a huge gift to Karl Rove," says veteran Democratic political consultant Hank Sheinkopf. Rove has made no secret of the fact that he wants to bring to the polls in 2004 the four million of America’s 19 million Evangelicals who didn’t vote in 2000. Judge Moore’s showdown is his bait. "I’ve worked in the Deep South for 25 years," says Sheinkopf, "and the Washington types don’t understand just what an enormous impact all this will have. And not just on Christians -- it’s a reflection of the states-rights mentality that plays on distrust of the power of the federal government. Race is no longer the political dividing line in this country -- it’s region and religion." Which is why the Ten Commandments issue also has enormous appeal to the pervasive religiosity among Latinos and African-Americans.

I've no doubt that Rove would stoop to any lengths to reelect
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Thanks for the story Scarletwine. This is so cynical and manipulative. I'm not a big admirer of Karl Rove to put it mildly.
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