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Old 01-06-2005, 07:31 PM   #61
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there was no nobility in Boxer's grandstanding today.

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so you wouldn't care if you had been prevented from voting by 8 hour lines or whatever diamond, or if your vote wasn't counted?

Well,

Would you as a single parent wait in line 8 hours?

Where is your empathy?

Who would pick up your kids after school?

I guess there is a guy in van with some candy
waiting to give them a ride

You would wait 8 hours? Right?
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I believe the cause is good as long as we can either overturn the election or undermine the Bush presidency. Viva La Blue!
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She really nailed this one. I hope the Academy will recognize her performance.

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Kerry rebuffs protest of Ohio electors
Uh, that's really a very mild rebuff. He just says he's not taking part, and that lawyers have told him it won't change the outcome. Which of course we already knew anyway.

I didn't see anything in that article where he objects to it in principal, or indicates that the complaints are unfounded.
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i was going through the posts so fast in the mid-afternoon that while i knew immedately what you were talking about re: the 'poll tax", and in my head I was thinking....'no, basicaly voting IS a right...'- The Voting Privilages Act went right past me till now, when i have a bit more time to be here and read the posts...

for the snarky 'joke', stran, very good.....` :snicker:
I'll be here all week ....
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so you wouldn't care if you had been prevented from voting by 8 hour lines or whatever diamond, or if your vote wasn't counted?

Well,

Would you as a single parent wait in line 8 hours?

Where is your empathy?

Who would pick up your kids after school?

I guess there is a guy in van with some candy
waiting to give them a ride

You would wait 8 hours? Right?
statements and questions like that make you appear odd and unstable.

as a parent i would have did a number of things to teach my children(if i had to) their civic responsibility and and what a privilige it is to vote.

i would of made arrangements for them to join me in line, if i had to, even if it took 8 hours.

it's that simple.

peace-

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Oh, the drama.

Why did Boxer wait 10 weeks to make her 2-hour grandstand.


And if you are really physically sick, maybe Elvis should place appropriate warnings on the site.
Not physically sick, but disgusted nontheless. The behavior of yourself and other conservatives concerning this issue is childish and to be looked down upon. It is important that everyone is completely sure that the election process was done correctly, withoutout any outside tampering, and that we can still carry out our own elections without worrying every time that it's gonna be like 2000 and 2004. This isn't about Kerry vs. Bush. Like I said before, this is about the fact that I find it very hard to believe that an international community who already pretty much hates what we're doing in Iraq, is going to do anything but pull away more if we can't even carry out our own elections in our own country. We cannot claim to have credibility in administiring nation elections in other countries if half of our own country won't even recognize that there are errors and strange activity going in our own elections.

As for why she waited 10 weeks...in all fairness, congress was out of session for half of that.
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ok even i have moved on. they need to move on too. there are other battles to be fought.
I can respect you and your differences with me, it's nice to see that you've moved on. I too think that we should concentrate on finding solutions that will do us good instead - like promoting funding for the tsunami victims.
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She really nailed this one. I hope the Academy will recognize her performance.

i do think some are auditioning for 'Give Me Another Hamburger Michael' Moore's next movie.


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statements and questions like that make you appear odd and unstable.
Odd and unstable? For crying out loud, open your mind just a little bit. Those questions were perfectly legitimate. There are reasons why people can't afford to spend 8 hours in line to vote, whether you want to recognize that or not.
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my point is with rights there are responsibilities, one can forfeit a lot of their rights by their conduct.



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statements and questions like that make you appear odd and unstable.

as a parent i would have did a number of things to teach my children(if i had to) their civic responsibility and and what a privilige it is to vote.

i would of made arrangements for them to join me in line, if i had to, even if it took 8 hours.

it's that simple.

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Good for you. It's nice to know you take this responsibility so seriously. So did, I would mention, many, many folks in largely Democratic precincts in Ohio. Not in Republican-leaning precincts, oddly enough....

But, with all due respect to deep, that's not really the question that needs to be asked. The question is, should it take 8 hours to vote? It stands to reason that if it should, everyone should have to stand in line 8 hours. Is that a reasonable solution to you? I doubt it is to the overwhelming majority of folks.

If it shouldn't take 8 hours, then we need to investigate why it happened in these precincts. This is exactly what the EC protest was about - nothing more.
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my point is with rights there are responsibilities, one can forfeit a lot of their rights by their conduct.



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That's an odd point to make, as it is a) completely obvious, and b) completely irrelevant, unless you're arguing that people had to spend 8 hours in line because they forfeited their right to vote.
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This is a little off-topic, but I believe California has a law that enforces a five minute voting rule.
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