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Old 06-23-2007, 09:14 PM   #16
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Freedom and individualism become opposed to human nature how?

I think that the success of the liberal democracy is a testament to how well libertarian ideals mesh with human nature.
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"Bucky" Covington III (born November 8, 1977) is an American Country Music Singer. He originally came to fame when he arrived at 8th place on the 5th season of American Idol. In early 2006, he was the 5th contestant to be eliminated from the final 12.
I guess these are the lyrics to Bucky's single.

They are a lot like something I saw, that was circulating, and attributed to George Carlin. Carlin said it was not his creation.



I think it is fair to call it "romantacized".

I think it is unfair to suggest that Bucky or Iron Horse are longing for the good ol days of segregation.
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I think it is unfair to suggest that Bucky or Iron Horse are longing for the good ol days of segregation.
Maybe. But when the hell were the "good old days"? And who were they good for?
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I think it is unfair to suggest that Bucky or Iron Horse are longing for the good ol days of segregation.
My earlier statement was not to suggest that Iron Horse misses segregation. My point was that it's only a certain group of people that you typically find longing for the "good old days"--the people for whom those days were good. And those days weren't good for everybody.
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I just think that it's totally full of shit that libertarianism on this board gets defined as this sort of hedonistic trash, it actually makes the regulatory case that much easier by showing how without state control people will self destruct.
Where have you seen FYM paint libertarianism this way?

I've seen this poster do that, but where have you seen this board doing that?
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In their response to this particular poster.
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I don't recall maligning Libertarianism in this thread. I don't have many opinions one way or the other on Libertarianism. I do recall saying that something about the "Libertarian idea" of not having seatbelt and helmet laws. Was that a misrepresentation?
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Well then I think you have greatly misunderstood. Look back at those paticular posts and you'll see a very misrepresented idea of Libertarianism.
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I'll agree on that.
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I don't think libertarianism is hedonistic trash at all. It's a philosophy that ignores basic human nature and history. That's all.

How did you arrive at this remarkable theory?
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here is a definition

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Libertarianism is a political philosophy maintaining that all persons are the absolute owners of their own lives, and should be free to do whatever they wish with their persons or property, provided they allow others the same liberty.
and on another point

reading through this threat

I don't understand some of the more passionate replies

there was not a strong case made for anything like:

these are terrible times today

let's return to the past


it seems like it is more difficult to post a
contrarian opinion in this forum

and I do know I am guilty
of writing heavy-handed replies myself

I do try and evaluate the need,
especially if several people have already gone in that direction
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