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Old 02-18-2007, 07:57 PM   #1
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“I believe in the culture war. And you know what? If I have to take a side in the culture war I’ll take [the conservative Christian] side. Because if you give me the choice of Paris Hilton or Jesus, I’ll take Jesus.”

~Alexandra Pelosi in the NY Times
(yes, her mom is the new Speaker of the House)
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old people say the craziest things

it is not a choice between Paris Hilton or Jesus


and as usual, these culture wars
are presented as a false dichotomy
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raise your hand if you give a shit what alexandra pelosi thinks. keep it raised if you actually know or care who she is.
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raise your hand if you give a shit what alexandra pelosi thinks. keep it raised if you actually know or care who she is.
So - is that vote for Paris?
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The culture 'wars', in my humble opinion, are a determined effort to poison our political sphere.

As a result of thirty or forty years of this slow seeping poison, debate in good faith is now all but impossible.

Also as a result of this insanity, Australian politicians now debate US talking points.

Very curious.
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Old 02-19-2007, 03:04 AM   #6
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So - is that vote for Paris?
Hey, nice to see you back.
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I'd go Paris...

These "culture" wars are pretty silly, as are the "history" wars...
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So - is that vote for Paris?
I really detest this thinking. I also find it really offensive - incase you cared.
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Hey, nice to see you back.
Thanks. I've been very busy with the National Guard lately. I've checked in from time to time.
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I really detest this thinking. I also find it really offensive - incase you cared.
What exactly has offended you?
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You can't be serious? What's not to get? A conservative posts a typical one liner which sums up the view of conservatives in general which is "If you dont follow Jesus, then you follow Paris" and we all know what it implies. You honestly cannot see what is flawed with this type of thinking. Unreal.
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Re: old people say the craziest things

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it is not a choice between Paris Hilton or Jesus


and as usual, these culture wars
are presented as a false dichotomy

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yep.
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You can't be serious? What's not to get? A conservative posts a typical one liner which sums up the view of conservatives in general which is "If you dont follow Jesus, then you follow Paris" and we all know what it implies. You honestly cannot see what is flawed with this type of thinking. Unreal.
As someone who believes you are either with Christ or against Him - I don't see this as a false dichotomy. One could argue that Paris doesn't represent the extreme opposite of Christ, and perhaps there are better examples of that ideal opposite - but she does represent much of what Christ was against (worldliness).

I don't see why Pelosi's statement bothers you so much. It makes decent sense for a one liner.
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I think she maybe more had in mind that it sounds jingoistic and trite, and things which are jingoistic and trite can strike many as patronizing. Personally I barely know who Paris Hilton is, just that she's some blond celebrity who often appears on the glossies at the supermarket aisle, which is enough to kill my interest right there. Maybe this is an elitist way to look at it, and I don't think it's intrinsically sinister to be interested in famous people or anything, but for me it's more of a rejecting-the-dismally-banal-and-stupid kind of thing than a rejecting-the-wordly-and-impure kind of thing.

I'll echo what INDY said though, good to see you.
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