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Old 02-21-2007, 12:39 AM   #46
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Yes and he used the language and the idea to his advantage. He certainly knows what appeals to his base.
He's too liberal to appeal to his base. He was simply the lesser of two evils in both elections.
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it is not a choice between Paris Hilton or Jesus


and as usual, these culture wars
are presented as a false dichotomy
First of all, this says it all.
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As someone who believes you are either with Christ or against Him - I don't see this as a false dichotomy. One could argue that Paris doesn't represent the extreme opposite of Christ, and perhaps there are better examples of that ideal opposite - but she does represent much of what Christ was against (worldliness).

"The Son of Man came eating and drinking and they say, 'Behold a gluttonous man and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds."
--Matthew 11:19

Maybe Jesus would be hanging out WITH Paris Hilton!
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Please help me understand. If something provides love, comfort, companionship, and joy - then it must be moral?
Yes.
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He's too liberal to appeal to his base. He was simply the lesser of two evils in both elections.

if you could design both your dream country, and your dream president, what would it/he look like?
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if you could design both your dream country, and your dream president, what would it/he look like?
The dream country is modern day America with a few tweaks.

1) return of American mythology - meaning, I think there is value in building up the lives of men like Washington, Jefferson, FDR, MLK. Keep them larger than life and hold them up as examples of courage and leadership.

2) allow Judeo/Christian ethics and morality to be taught in public schools. Secular Humanism is the current religion being taught and I think it is leading us down the wrong path.

3) removal of activist judges, both conservative and liberal.

4) an end to big oil and big auto as we know it. We are slaves to this outdated, robber barron system and I hate it. Electric cars are very patriotic

5) the banning and removal of Islamic Fascism.

6) extreme funding of green technology. The ROI will be worth it!

7) outlaw abortion (this is a brutal and barbaric practice - medical advances will only continue to reveal how truly awful this is)

8) mandatory 2 year service for every man and woman (can be military, peace corps, Red Cross...etc)

9) that we choose to reject the sewage that comes from Hollywood.

10) that our university teachers stop usuing their position to spread the hatred of America and Judeo/Christian values.

Any candidate, man/woman/black/white/Republican/Democrat/Independent, running on these basic principles, and he walks as he talks (i.e. integrity), is my ideal candidate
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The dream country is modern day America with a few tweaks.

1) return of American mythology - meaning, I think there is value in building up the lives of men like Washington, Jefferson, FDR, MLK. Keep them larger than life and hold them up as examples of courage and leadership.

2) allow Judeo/Christian ethics and morality to be taught in public schools. Secular Humanism is the current religion being taught and I think it is leading us down the wrong path.

3) removal of activist judges, both conservative and liberal.

4) an end to big oil and big auto as we know it. We are slaves to this outdated, robber barron system and I hate it. Electric cars are very patriotic

5) the banning and removal of Islamic Fascism.

6) extreme funding of green technology. The ROI will be worth it!

7) outlaw abortion (this is a brutal and barbaric practice - medical advances will only continue to reveal how truly awful this is)

8) mandatory 2 year service for every man and woman (can be military, peace corps, Red Cross...etc)

9) that we choose to reject the sewage that comes from Hollywood.

10) that our university teachers stop usuing their position to spread the hatred of America and Judeo/Christian values.

Any candidate, man/woman/black/white/Republican/Democrat/Independent, running on these basic principles, and he walks as he talks (i.e. integrity), is my ideal candidate


is there any room for self-criticism/self-reflection in here?
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Old 02-21-2007, 10:38 AM   #53
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The dream country is modern day America with a few tweaks.

1) return of American mythology - meaning, I think there is value in building up the lives of men like Washington, Jefferson, FDR, MLK. Keep them larger than life and hold them up as examples of courage and leadership.

2) allow Judeo/Christian ethics and morality to be taught in public schools. Secular Humanism is the current religion being taught and I think it is leading us down the wrong path.

3) removal of activist judges, both conservative and liberal.

4) an end to big oil and big auto as we know it. We are slaves to this outdated, robber barron system and I hate it. Electric cars are very patriotic

5) the banning and removal of Islamic Fascism.

6) extreme funding of green technology. The ROI will be worth it!

7) outlaw abortion (this is a brutal and barbaric practice - medical advances will only continue to reveal how truly awful this is)

8) mandatory 2 year service for every man and woman (can be military, peace corps, Red Cross...etc)

9) that we choose to reject the sewage that comes from Hollywood.

10) that our university teachers stop usuing their position to spread the hatred of America and Judeo/Christian values.

Any candidate, man/woman/black/white/Republican/Democrat/Independent, running on these basic principles, and he walks as he talks (i.e. integrity), is my ideal candidate
11) Get rid of the designated hitter in baseball.

I don't know of any electric cars capable of speeds over 200 mph so you lose me there, but all cars at the Indianapolis 500 this year will run on 100% ethanol.
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11) Get rid of the designated hitter in baseball.

I don't know of any electric cars capable of speeds over 200 mph so you lose me there, but all cars at the Indianapolis 500 this year will run on 100% ethanol.
Where are you going that you need to travel at 200 mph???
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11) Get rid of the designated hitter in baseball.

LOL!

I am much more of a National League baseball fan - being that I am from St. Louis, the best baseball town in the world!
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is there any room for self-criticism/self-reflection in here?
Well, I believe we should always be sober in self assessment. Having close friends that can keep us on the right track also helps.
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Well, I believe we should always be sober in self assessment. Having close friends that can keep us on the right track also helps.


so would, say, a sober self-assessment on the need to drop the Atomic Bomb be a sober self-assessment, or would it be the spreading hatred of Judaeo-American values?
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so would, say, a sober self-assessment on the need to drop the Atomic Bomb be a sober self-assessment, or would it be the spreading hatred of Judaeo-American values?
With our modern military - nukes aren't needed.
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AEON, is there room for dissent at all? Or are we all thinking alike in your Utopia?
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