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Old 11-04-2002, 08:37 PM   #31
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not quite as clever as people who quote the bible for effect.
It's not for effect - it's the base for where we are coming from.
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Old 11-04-2002, 08:52 PM   #32
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If you kids would reread my dinosaur-playdoh thread all questions would answered..Inc Melon's
I think we need to consevrve bandwidth here
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. Ever wonder how tropical plant fossils ended up embedded in Antarctica?

I mean, come ON. Darwinism is certainly open to criticism--
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Darwinism is a theory only..
So is the big bang theory that contines to evolve, change directions ect ect..

And who the hell called me a "goober"?


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Old 11-04-2002, 08:54 PM   #33
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It's not for effect - it's the base for where we are coming from.
Can't Pink Floyd lyrics be the base for where someone is coming from?
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Diamond, you mean this thread?

http://forum.interference.com/showth...light=dinosaur

*settles in for some leisurely reading of the 10 page thread*
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It's only 3 pages for me
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Yes..
Grab a cup of coffee
Many ppl privately told me it made sense but were to afraid to post w the risk of being torched

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I am Catholic as well, and I was taught "God-created" evolution as well. I have no problem at all believing that evolution, as a scientific process, has been an instrument of God to create the world and the universe.
what melon said.
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Can't Pink Floyd lyrics be the base for where someone is coming from?


This thread is hilarious.
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This thread is hilarious.
you mean you don't use pink floyd lyrics to explain the origin of the universe and such?

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I just remembered why I don't frequent this forum... "You're wrong and I'm right"

oooh, my poor little thread has turned into a blood bath. A mockery. Pink Floyd lyrics explaining creation. Gah.

It is my personal opinion that the Genesis story is just that - a story. Why? I think that it was made up, more or less, for the masses to understand, so people had a basis. Do I believe in God, yes. And I don't believe everything that I read.

How do we know that God didn't create man, who evolved over millions of years?

How do we know God didn't create the universe at random, and then the Big Bang theory occurred?

There IS enough time in the universe for the world to evolve from one cell. Don't go by single sources. Cells divide quicker. Natural selection is the driving force behind evolution. Mass extinction events helped to bring us to where we are. Individuals do not evolve. Populations do...

I'm blabbering away in scientific thought here.

It sounds more like Pink and Raven are arguing against the existence of a god, not against the existence of evolution.
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while I accept and believe in the concept of a *supreme being* or *creator* I cannot come to terms with the concept of how this original entity came to exist, I guess my question is: how did anything come into existence... the creator... the creations... doesn't everything have an origin that cannot be isolated to one moment... an infinite inversion or reversal of time -- back towards the beginning, if that makes sense? how can this be? how can time not be infinite in every linear direction?

I also realize I am a mere human with a human mind and I no nothing of such elaborate designs, and I suppose I am making the mistake of trying to reason thru something that is beyond the conceptual capacity of the human mind... we do not have the mind of God. If I am missing something, please direct me towards the right path.
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Pinkfloyd, Bama, quit with the crap and anyone else too. Its evolution babeee's! Not Pink Floyd lyrics!
Seriously though, first and last warning. Anymore inane pissing match with a 9/11 content, and I will close this without a second thought. Pick your reply themes more carefully Pinkfloyd.


on topic, I tend to be more on Wanderers side of things. I believe that a God made us all, all this around us, perhaps had plans for everything that happens. But its the origin of all that I just can't get a good grasp on.
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while I accept and believe in the concept of a *supreme being* or *creator* I cannot come to terms with the concept of how this original entity came to exist, I guess my question is: how did anything come into existence... the creator... the creations... doesn't everything have an origin that cannot be isolated to one moment... an infinite inversion or reversal of time -- back towards the beginning, if that makes sense? how can this be? how can time not be infinite in every linear direction?

I also realize I am a mere human with a human mind and I no nothing of such elaborate designs, and I suppose I am making the mistake of trying to reason thru something that is beyond the conceptual capacity of the human mind... we do not have the mind of God. If I am missing something, please direct me towards the right path.
It is confusing if we keep God on our level. God exists outside of time, He is the creator of time. It can best be seen in the first words of the Bible - "In the beginning God ..."

Astrophysicists have a reasonably good understanding of the universe when it was 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds old (that is 10 to the minus 34 power). The models show our four dimensions (height, width, length and time) reaching a zero point. The universe had a beginning. God says He is the beginner.
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Take a look at yourself in the mirror. Do you think you are a result of a random "natural" process that started with a primordial slime.
I don't think you are. I don't think I am. I'm not sure about pinkfloyd though.
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The process of natural selection is the foundation of the theory of evolution. The existence of this process in nature cannot be denied. Whether this is the only process that has shaped our evolution, however, is questionable.

Melon, don't mock the boogie man. He will strike you down from the heavens!
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