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Old 09-24-2005, 08:17 AM   #16
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I want to know, does the US have discrimination laws or not, which distinguish precisely this kind of thing? You're so not a free nation.

I wouldn't be against it necessarily, but how would much stricter discrimination laws that would prevent a private school from expelling this girl make our nation more free, in the technical sense?

And as other people have said, this school gets no federal funding, and if it had this would never have happened.
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We've got this coverall type of law here which states no one, institution or organisation can discriminate based upon gender, sexuality, age, race, religion, ethnicity, etc etc. doesn't matter who it is. No school or employer can expel or sack someone because of sexuality. Funding is a non issue. It's simply illegal. It makes everyone free to be who they are without fearing reprisal. It's aim is equality.
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BTW, get schools like this taxmoney also ?
No.
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Why in the hell were they sending her to that school in the first place?
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Are they going to now check for alcoholics, adulterers, divorced parents, drug users, parents who watch porn separately and/or together, mothers who have had previous abortions, those who had premarital sex and so on?
precisely.
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Why in the hell were they sending her to that school in the first place?
The parents were described in the LA Times as "practicing Lutherans" who wanted their daughter to have a Christian education.

I guess she got one.
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We've got this coverall type of law here which states no one, institution or organisation can discriminate based upon gender, sexuality, age, race, religion, ethnicity, etc etc. doesn't matter who it is. No school or employer can expel or sack someone because of sexuality. Funding is a non issue. It's simply illegal. It makes everyone free to be who they are without fearing reprisal. It's aim is equality.
For better or worse, the US has a strong history of private property laws which allow certain things like this to happen. It's a double-edged sword.
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Jesus was condemned as a heretic.

Religious folk rarely have it right.

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Jesus was condemned as a heretic.

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Exactly! I truly believe that Jesus would have sided with the parents, not these school leaders and all of the other evangelical bigots out there, who are nothing more than modern day Pharisees.
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We've got this coverall type of law here which states no one, institution or organisation can discriminate based upon gender, sexuality, age, race, religion, ethnicity, etc etc. doesn't matter who it is. No school or employer can expel or sack someone because of sexuality. Funding is a non issue. It's simply illegal. It makes everyone free to be who they are without fearing reprisal. It's aim is equality.
Freedom is not the same thing as equality.

Like martha said, it's a double-edged sword, and I guess you have to find a happy medium...
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Private school, private rules. Read them before you send your kids there.

We were very close to sending one of our kids to a private Christian school at one point, but we didn't care for some of their rules so we didn't.
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I understand that this is a private school and therefore they can do what they please-if you go there, unfortunately there's some rules you may have to abide by that you won't really like. They should've been aware of that beforehand, if they weren't already (and if they were, why they still sent her anyway is a mystery).

But it's still really stupid and sad. I really, really wish that these people would start caring about something other than what someone's sexual orientation is. Why is sexual orientation still an issue with some people? I'm sorry, I just don't get it. What. Is. The. Problem?

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Why is sexual orientation still an issue with some people? I'm sorry, I just don't get it. What. Is. The. Problem?
Because when you're taught your entire life to hate someone, you'll do anything and everything to justify it.

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No. This is a private school. Schools that receive tax dollars are prohibited from this kind of discrimination. So far anyway. Who knows what our idiot president will propose next.
like you I read the article in the LA times


if a private Hebrew school

chose to include or exclude a student it is there business

same thing for a So. Baptize School, Black Muslim School, etc.



religios sckools rarely teach true tolerance
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The state cannot enforce anything in this school. Separation of Church and State. If they receive federal money at all, then the Feds can step in, otherwise...no.
this is less and less true

with "faith based money" going to churches it indirectly supports the schools

by freeing up money from other church programs

vouchers are an out and out attack on public schools
and handout to religious intolerance
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