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Old 06-19-2007, 06:33 PM   #16
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Before I could address why they've done this, I'd need to know what other measures to address the problem were exhausted first.
Fair enough. But we could go ahead and make some suggestions as to what measures might be taken instead to deal with the issues.

I dunno. . .I'm just not yet fully convinced that this incident is worthy of our outrage. At my school we generally discourage boy/girl touching and PDA especially among the older students. If I see one of the couples putting their arms around each other or leaning on each other, I'll just simply say "Hey guys let's give each other some space" and that's about it. The kids don't make an issue of it and neither do I. I was about to comment that I wouldn't handle it as harshly as this school did and then went back read the article and found the boy was just given a warning. I would find a student and his/her parents wanting to make a case out of such an approach frustrating, annoying, and waste of all of our time. My feeling is that the kids are at school, they're here to learn--they're not on a date. I talk a lot about my students carrying themselves "professionally." (We're talking middle school and high school age students). And it's necessary--when we go on field trips I have to tell the kids not to lie down in public, or hang all over each other (and of course not run around wildly) and I explain that there's nothing wrong with any of that behavior. It's just that we're in a "professional" setting and it's not "professional behavior."
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An absolute fucking joke - but the inevitable result of the PC universe that some on here propagandise in favour of.

This is the result of the extreme left wing of the Democrat Party inveigling their ideology into public life.

Essentially, it's socialism by another name.
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No hi-fives?




Take, that.
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I talk a lot about my students carrying themselves "professionally." (We're talking middle school and high school age students). And it's necessary--when we go on field trips I have to tell the kids not to lie down in public, or hang all over each other (and of course not run around wildly) and I explain that there's nothing wrong with any of that behavior. It's just that we're in a "professional" setting and it's not "professional behavior."
It seems to me that this form of schooling will lead to the development of well-schooled, "well-mannered" robots.

I wouldn't want my kids brought up in that way.
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It seems to me that this form of schooling will lead to the development of well-schooled, "well-mannered" robots.

I wouldn't want my kids brought up in that way.
Oh good grief.

He's talking about having the kids behave in a certain way while on field trips. What's wrong with letting children know that here is a time and a place and that in certain situations, a certain code for behaviour is expected. This is how the world works. You go to work and act appropriately. You don't show up in flip flops with your crack pipe and a pizza stain on the front of your shirt to meet a corporate client. It's not bloody indoctrination!
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Oh good grief..............................It's not bloody indoctrination!
You are clearly a liberal bigot, otherwise you wouldn't be swearing at me in such a shrill fashion.
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An absolute fucking joke - but the inevitable result of the PC universe that some on here propagandise in favour of.

This is the result of the extreme left wing of the Democrat Party inveigling their ideology into public life.

Essentially, it's socialism by another name.
What a fucking croc...

Yeah I somehow see those extreme lefties that talk about free love, trying to push for multiculturalism, want to tear down those types of walls pushing an agenda where you can't shake your brother's hand. Yeah it screams left. It doesn't reek of the sex fearing whiners that say kids move too fast on the right at all... This is the greatest form of abstinence.

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A similar rule was enforced at my old middle school a few years back, right at the time when I had a touchy-feely girlfriend. I can see making out in the halls and other seriously distracting things being a big deal, but high-fives? hugging? That's absurd.
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What a fucking croc...

Yeah I somehow see those extreme lefties that talk about free love, trying to push for multiculturalism, want to tear down those types of walls pushing an agenda where you can't shake your brother's hand. Yeah it screams left. It doesn't reek of the sex fearing whiners that say kids move too fast on the right at all...


The PC left has a lot in common with the theocratic right - both want to restrict freedoms, censor debate, and control society - the first by putting in place a series of no doubt well meaning social mores, sometimes enforced by their acolytes and paid enforcers in the media (witness the case of the unfortunate Mr Washington or even Mr Imus), the latter by means of prejudice against gays, atheists, pacifists, environmentalists (used by the right to label anyone that questions unfettered capitalism), etc.

The end aims are broadly similar - namely, to enforce their own narrow-minded ideology on the majority.

Both forms of extremism encourage, persuade and cajole the majority (i.e., for want of a better description, the middle classes) to believe that there is a 'correct', 'right', or, shall we say, an 'appropriate' way of thinking about any given issue, and accordingly opinions which fall outside this way of thinking are, automatically not given much credence.

What passes for the 'left' is no longer genuinely revolutionary, whereas what passes for the 'right' is not genuinely conservative, but largely reactionary, in the original sense of the word 'reactionary'.

In this paradigm, even the very word 'conservative' becomes a term of abuse amongst those elements that control certain elements of society, whilst conversely 'liberal' has also become a term of abuse used against those who disagree with theocracy and unfettered capitalism.

Also, both 'ideologies' if we can dignify them by such a name, ultimately tend towards the preservation of the mores of existing society which is essentially the rich getting richer and the working and middle classes staying poor and uninvolved (in the political sense), both are anti-freedom and stultifying, and coincencidentally or not both ultimately act in favour of the ruling interests, and as a result the ruling classes tend to preserve their power.
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So then you admit your response was completely off...
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So then you admit your response was completely off...
I can see why that might be assumed, certainly.
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I assume nothing.
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I assume nothing.
That is a good starting point.
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Yeah, I've made it a rule in my life...
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