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Old 06-15-2005, 06:25 PM   #16
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Sorry, not the family. They are being exploited.

I'm talking about the newstainment hosts that do the explotation.edited to add:

Have you read the autopsy? She had liquid for a brain, splintered bones for support. adn no evidence of trauma, strangulation, or other abuse. If people will use a vegatative person for their ends, I see them as degenerate and evil,
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:28 PM   #17
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I think Scarletwine was referring to Hannity as the fucking liar not the brother.
"these people" sounded like more than one individual
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:31 PM   #18
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Add in Rush, Scarborough and some in Congress that sought to use this case to bolster their political careers.
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Why go after someone who has lost like that?
The family is not above criticism for the way they've handled this and the way they've treated the husband.
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NB, we don't agree on much, especially in the political spectrum, but I know you are a caring individual.
To me this is pure explotation by the media of any source. Jackson was 2 days ago now they need a new story.
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Old 06-15-2005, 06:38 PM   #21
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I agree Martha they are to blame for their daughters explotation. One would like to believe they were sincere in their beliefs.
I personally believe they were exploited by Terry and others, especially the doctor that told them they he could improve her to the point that she would be able to communicate to them.

There is of course data on how sensationalism changes perceptions of even the family involved. Truly I think they are guilty of a combination of both.
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Old 06-15-2005, 10:05 PM   #22
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So sad I can't even think of anything to say. She is in a better place.
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In my utterly non medical opinion, I reckon starving to death and dying from extreme dehydration is a painful way to go.
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Its just a body; really it made no difference one way or the other because she was dead. I cannot see how keeping the body alive was causing any suffering to her because she was gone.
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just a body, alive, dead...
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No brain - no pain or suffering.
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I assume he's saying the brain was clinically dead so the body was just a husk.
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In my opinion we cant really know if her soul was still in there or if it was "just a body"
From a christian perspective I can tell you that a person with religious conviction would feel like it was their duty to fight this.
Now on the other side of things, I cant see how keeping her alive if she was in a complete vegetative state was doing anything productive.
to be honest I dont think I have a complete opinion on this one because, as one of the masses, I dont know everything.
Im not a doctor and Im not God.
I cant know what was going on in her head if she had any thoughts or dreams.
Im just glad this whole thing is over
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Well it is; there is no difference between being alive and being dead to the person because they are (edit: mentally) dead; all higher function is gone. It is tragic that she died and it is sad that it was dragged out for all those years, it would seem that the choice was reasonable. Having said that keeping them alive in that state does no harm but their organs could do a lot more good for real people and give them a chance to life.
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Old 06-16-2005, 05:02 AM   #30
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was she concious? i cant remember. i'm rather hypocritical on this, as i do support euthenasia when it is only a life support machine keeping the brain active. yet, the whole feeding tube deal is not the same to me somehow.

im not god and dont agree with most religions, so it is precisely for that reason i guess im struggling to see how this isn't entirely barbaric. on the other side of the coin, her body was failing in so many ways. there was no quality. but then i come back to the fact that there was still life, without the assistance of machines. just a mere feeding tube. she was forcibly starved and dehydrated until she died. not let go peacefully after her brain had stopped keeping her going, as limited as it was. i dunno. it's almost the same, but not quite.
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