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Old 10-11-2004, 09:43 AM   #1
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crys Save me from such ignorance!

I was talking to one of my friends today and I mentioned that I was sad about Christopher Reeve. She then said "What happened?" and I told her that he had died. She didn't have a CLUE who Christopher Reeve was. She had never seen Superman or heard about him. This is a girl whose goal is to become a famous actress! But I don't completely fault her, I also fault her parents who never inform her of anything.

If ignorance is bliss she is the most blissful person on the planet.

The same with another one of my friends. She has a 4.5 or something GPA and didn't know what the White House was/looked like. She also didn't realize there had never been a female pope....................

Oy the frustrations! I enjoy coming here to FYM where I can have discussions with informed people.
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I have noticed many times that sometimes the people with the highest grades are all but pop culturally illiterate and at a loss to any kind of trivia or basic knowledge of movies and bands. Not always of course, but some of those people grew up very sheltered by their parents, never allowed to watch much TV or go to movies or listen to rock and roll. They have to stay in their room and study and get whipped for getting a B. I'm not saying your friend is that way just that those people do exist. My brother went to college with a guy who had grown up with no TV or stereo in his house, never been to a theater, and had never eaten out in his life! I do believe being like that puts a kid at a disadvantage in the world. Also, a lot of book learnin' smart people have no common sense.
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What's the pope?
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:02 AM   #4
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Eh, I think growing up without a TV would have its advantages.
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I have noticed many times that sometimes the people with the highest grades are all but pop culturally illiterate and at a loss to any kind of trivia or basic knowledge of movies and bands. Not always of course, but some of those people grew up very sheltered by their parents, never allowed to watch much TV or go to movies or listen to rock and roll. They have to stay in their room and study and get whipped for getting a B. I'm not saying your friend is that way just that those people do exist. My brother went to college with a guy who had grown up with no TV or stereo in his house, never been to a theater, and had never eaten out in his life! I do believe being like that puts a kid at a disadvantage in the world. Also, a lot of book learnin' smart people have no common sense.
I agree with some of what you have said, but I think that you're making some major generalizations here. First of all, I am probably one of these smart people that you're talking about. However, I object to the fact that you're equating book smarts to being sheltered or having no common sense. There are plenty of people, myself included, who have gotten excellent grades and are a lot more into more important cultural and worldy things than someone who is up on every trend change, action of a celebrity, and the latest music. To me, this is what pop culture is, and, quite frankly, I find it useless. In my opinion, I benefited from not watching Dawson's Creek and all the other "popular" teen shows because it let me focus on things that actually matter, like politics, my schoolwork, finding my own talents, that kind of idea. I applaud my parents for taking me out to eat every weekend and taking me and my sister on vacations every summer to more places than the beach. My mother made both me and my sister watch classic movies so that we could understand famous references and such. I guess my point is that I feel you're in danger of creating a stereotype here that all book-smart people are dumb about the world around them.
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I agree with some of what you have said, but I think that you're making some major generalizations here.
No, I didn't, thus the phrases "not always of course" and "not saying your friend is like this."

Of course the people in the description I gave are small in number among smart people and small in number among all people. But as I said, they do exist.
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She has a 4.5 or something GPA
WTF? How can she be .5 higher than perfect??!!
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WTF? How can she be .5 higher than perfect??!!
AP and honors classes add weight to your grades. the valedictorian of my class has a frickin 5.1!!!!! I can't even get a 3.5!! My school is insane. You can have a 4.0 and not be in the top 100 of the class. And its a public school.
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AP and honors classes add weight to your grades. the valedictorian of my class has a frickin 5.1!!!!! I can't even get a 3.5!! My school is insane. You can have a 4.0 and not be in the top 100 of the class. And its a public school.
What?!?! That's not fair! We just got college credit/exemptions for AP classes and honors credit for honors classes, the grades of course counted towards GPA but, the TYPE of class didn't. Weird, I've never heard of that. But maybe they do our schools way different here. Our scale was 98%-100% was an A (4.0) 96-98 A-, 92-95 B+, 89-91 a B (3.0) etc, etc. I mean, you could get over 100% for a class, but then your grade was an A (4.0)
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AP and honors classes add weight to your grades. the valedictorian of my class has a frickin 5.1!!!!! I can't even get a 3.5!! My school is insane. You can have a 4.0 and not be in the top 100 of the class. And its a public school.
yeah i have weighted classes like that too.

thank god for it too, my gpa went up nicely after the ap and honors classes . im only in one ap class though this year, and it happens to be my easiest class. my hardest c lass is actually my non honors and non ap class, so i dunno whatsup there
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She has a 4.5 or something GPA
Damned grade inflation.
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Ahhh, the difference between wisdom and knowledge....
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No, I didn't, thus the phrases "not always of course" and "not saying your friend is like this."

Of course the people in the description I gave are small in number among smart people and small in number among all people. But as I said, they do exist.
sorry, I didn't mean to go off on you, but I did and I apologize. One of my nerves got touched there.
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sorry, I didn't mean to go off on you, but I did and I apologize. One of my nerves got touched there.
I understand. On the same note, it bugs me when my disclaimers get looked over and I get accused of generalizations. It happens here all the time "some but not all" is usually the one I put when someone posts 'but they're not all like that' so there's a history there for me too. Of course most smart people are smart in movies and songs too and real quick to make puns and jokes. I mean by this both smart in grades people and bright people who don't make good grades because they don't apply themselves, they are a group too. I have also seen people with masters in physics lose on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire because they didn't know the artist or the lyrics to a common song. There's all types out there!

As far as the extreme cases I mentioned in the first post, I have personally known those people, but of course they are a minority.
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