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Old 02-03-2010, 12:02 PM   #841
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Honestly, though, we shouldn't even be talking about her.

Because it's sexist!
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Old 02-03-2010, 12:55 PM   #842
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it does seem as if Palin is never, ever going to let an opportunity to feel besieged/oppressed/belittled pass her by, since that is the root of her support. they're being mean to her! and her baby!
Yes it does. It's working for her. Keep using what works, I guess. But the supporters are at fault too for not seeing through that.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:04 PM   #843
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Yes it does. It's working for her. Keep using what works, I guess. But the supporters are at fault too for not seeing through that.
Yes, but it only seems to work for a small portion of the party... If it works for anyone outside the tea party then our country is a lot worse off then we thought.
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Another breaking story. It was originally posted on Mudflats, but traffic has slowed down their servers to a crawl right now, so I'm linking to it on Huff-Po. Our girl Sarah - is there anything she's not hypocritical about? Go to the original article to see links to the documents.


Jeanne Devon ("AKMuckraker"): Sarah Palin - Tax Cheat? Contents of Mysterious Envelope Revealed


Sarah Palin - Tax Cheat? Contents of Mysterious Envelope Revealed


It was a few weeks ago, and it was a day like most days. I was having my first cup of coffee, settling in at my desk, and my eye landed on a stack of mail. On top of the stack was an envelope, and on the envelope was my name, hand written. I didn't see a return address in the corner, so I flipped the envelope over to see who had sent it. Nothing. Two stamps, and a Juneau, Alaska postmark. That was it.

To fully appreciate the contents of the envelope we'll need to wind the clock back to 2006. Sarah Palin is running for governor of the state of Alaska. She's running against former governor Tony Knowles, a Democrat. The DNC, unlike John McCain or the Republican party, decided that it would be to their advantage to vet this unknown Republican candidate for governor. When the McCain campaign "vetted" Palin they ended up with a couple Google articles, and a YouTube video. When the Democrats were finished with her, they had a 63-page document. There were lots of interesting things in the document, including this.

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Pg. 48/63 Palin Declined to Appear in Ads for A Candidate Because He Had Not Paid His Property Taxes.

In 2004, it came to light that Republican Rep. Vic Kohring owed the borough $2,277 in unpaid property taxes on property he owns off Knik-Goose Bay Road, according to borough records. "That bothered former Wasilla Mayor Sarah Palin enough that she declined a campaign request to do a pro-Kohring TV commercial. As a former mayor, Palin said, it made her uncomfortable to back someone with unpaid taxes when the city relies on property taxes." [Anchorage Daily News (Alaska), 10/28/04]

It was things like this that really made Sarah Palin stand out as a gubernatorial candidate. Republicans in the state were sick of the corruption that was running rampant in their own party, and they wanted change. They wanted a "fresh face" who had new ideas and ethical standards. They wanted someone who was actually bothered by a public official who would cheat his community by passing his personal tax burden on to others.


Recently, Sarah Palin gave an interview to Bill O'Reilly and said her favorite vacation spot was "The middle of nowhere at our cabin in Petersville," Alaska.

And now we get to the envelope. Inside was an unsigned letter which read:

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Todd and Sarah are now millionaires, but they shirk their responsibility to pay local property taxes.


Attached are printed copies of Matanuska-Susitna Borough tax assessments from the public website (address shown at the bottom) regarding two lake frontage properties the Palins own in the Petersville Hills. Safari Lake is a gorgeous location, with stunning views of Mt. McKinley and the surrounding terrain.

Please note that two parcels total almost 20 acres and are assessed for a total value of $30,000. Also, there is a $0 value regarding any buildings on the property.

Any photos or visual inspection of the properties would clearly reveal that there are two large "cabins" on the property that are well built, and include thousands of dollars worth of improvements and amenities. The buildings are clearly nicer than many people's homes.

Also on the property is a large shop for snowmachines and four-wheelers.

These buildings have been on the property for years now - yet the Palins have done nothing to correct the assessment.

The letter was followed by two copies of Matanuska-Susitna Borough tax assessments for the parcels of land in question showing records for the years 2007, 2008, and 2009. You can see the documents online HERE and HERE.


This photo, recently obtained by themudflats.net, shows one of the buildings on the property. It was taken about two years ago.

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There was another reference to property taxes in that vetting document from 2006. It talked about an inner struggle Palin had with whether or not to support a property tax cap. She talked to the Anchorage Daily News.
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Pg. 15/63 Palin Called Herself "Such a Weasel" For Not Having a Firm Stand on the Property Tax Cap.


Palin said she has declined requests by Tax Cap Yes to speak in favor of the initiative. Yet, she said, she doesn't object to her name continuing to be listed on the group's Web site among 10 current or former government officials -- half from Mat-Su -- in support of the initiative. Palin acknowledged that she was sounding quite the politician. 'I am so sorry I'm such a weasel,' she said."
[Anchorage Daily News, 10/8/00]

Maybe Palin finally figured out how to solve her dilemma of indecision - pay the taxes on the land, but cap the taxes on improvements at zero. Brilliant!
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so you are one that is concerned about politicians and real estate scams?


just to be fair, did you get upset about this scam?

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Did you have a bad day or something? Because your posts are getting more and more hateful and disgusting. That was just flat-out uncalled for.

And what you said is in absolutely no way correct whatsoever, seeing as it's her son, not daughter, who has special needs.

So now, my friend, it looks like you got a Sophie's Choice here;


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"Our political correct society is acting like some giant insult’s taken place by calling a bunch of people who are retards, retards. I mean these people, these liberal activists are kooks. They are looney tunes. And I’m not going to apologize for it, I’m just quoting Emanuel. It’s in the news. I think their big news is he’s out there calling Obama’s number one supporters f’ing retards. So now there’s going to be a meeting. There’s going to be a retard summit at the White House. Much like the beer summit between Obama and Gates and that cop in Cambridge."

You can't condemn Rahm and give Rush a pass

If Palin does not condemn Rush she will look like a phoney

What do you think about Rush using the word retards?
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I wondered why she was all hot for Searchlight. I spend time in Searchlight and COULD NOT figure out what the draw was... then I read further. It's Harry's hometown. Not that he's ever there.

I wonder if she'll have lunch at the Nugget?
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so you are one that is concerned about politicians and real estate scams?


just to be fair, did you get upset about this scam?

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Deep, I've read that entire article, and I'm honestly not sure what I should be concerned about. He bought a small strip of land adjacent to the home he'd just purchased - 1/6th of the lot - for 1/6th of the price that Rezko paid for it.

If that ended up being a "scam," could you find me an article that illustrates it better? Because I'm not seeing it. Was it smart to deal with someone like Rezko? Probably not. But all parts of the Obama purchase seemed top be above board.

And please, tell me how this equates to a politician who ran on a platform of cleaning up unethical practices in Alaskan politics lying on a land assessment form for YEARS, and is paying lower taxes to the government as a result?

I know you fancy yourself some sort of hypocrisy police, and you were hoping to bust me, but the two situations aren't even close.
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I know you fancy yourself some sort of hypocrisy police, and you were hoping to bust me


Palin Considering 2012 Run, Defends Limbaugh's Use Of 'Retard' On Fox News Sunday

"Palin also used her platform to continue a call for the president to rid himself of his closest advisers. On Attorney General Eric Holder, she labeled his handling of captured terrorists -- "allowing them our U.S. constitutional protections when they do not deserve them" -- a firing offense. On Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, she said his comments calling liberal groups "f-ing retards" was "indecent and insensitive" and cause for his dismissal.

But the former governor went to great and sometimes awkward lengths to insist that when conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh used the same exact term to describe the same exact group, it was simply in the role of political humorist.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."

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But the former governor went to great and sometimes awkward lengths to insist that when conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh used the same exact term to describe the same exact group, it was simply in the role of political humorist.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."
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: On Attorney General Eric Holder, she labeled his handling of captured terrorists -- "allowing them our U.S. constitutional protections when they do not deserve them" -- a firing offense.
Wait. Those idiot tea baggers are all crying over how that damn Socialist is destroying the Constitution, but this idiot gets to decide to whom it applies?

What a bunch of idiots.
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"Palin also used her platform to continue a call for the president to rid himself of his closest advisers. On Attorney General Eric Holder, she labeled his handling of captured terrorists -- "allowing them our U.S. constitutional protections when they do not deserve them" -- a firing offense. On Chief-of-Staff Rahm Emanuel, she said his comments calling liberal groups "f-ing retards" was "indecent and insensitive" and cause for his dismissal.

But the former governor went to great and sometimes awkward lengths to insist that when conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh used the same exact term to describe the same exact group, it was simply in the role of political humorist.

"They are kooks, so I agree with Rush Limbaugh," she said, when read a quote of Limbaugh calling liberal groups "retards." "Rush Limbaugh was using satire ... . I didn't hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not agree with 'f-ing retards,' and we did know that Rahm Emanuel, as has been reported, did say that. There is a big difference there."

Holy crap...

How is it that so many still see this woman as a viable canidate?

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With the exception of not use the f-word, that's exactly what he did... you fucking moron.

(I did not call someone I do not agree with a "fucking moron", I was using satire.)
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It looks like the Scott Brown picture, just less hairy

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could someone tell me, please, what are Sarah Palin's specific plans to address the following issues:

1. the debt
2. health care
3. Afghanistan
4. energy

i know she has opinions, but i'm looking for plans and specific recommendations for actions.

i'd love to know what she has beyond slogans.
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